THE "FIRST BITE"

Ben REINERS

Sealiner
Staff member
I don’t know if I am wrong by saying that I have seen very little feedback or articles/stories from anglers actually describing the “initial bite/take/nibbles” of their medium to large species of fish they have caught or lost , be it edibles or non-edibles.
It might sound boring that we all know how a shad bites or what to expect , but I know that there are so many valued versions & untold stories out there that needs to be read.
 
What I say here, I base on the content of the various sub-forums on SL of which I read almost daily , but should I have missed it , then I must say a huge apology. 
I am actually trying to see if it could make interesting reading material & if our anglers are willing to share & elaborate on their individual experiences , & it can also contribute to would-be/inspired angler’s knowledge on what to expect when dropping their lines in the water................!!  At least this is my opinion, & gives us another reason to stay longer on SL...........:fbash
 
Especially the initial bite, the “taking” of line , the “tick-tick-tick of the ratchet, the playing with the bait , then all of a sudden 100kpu pull away , swimming with the bait towards the shore , or the ratchet screaming, “slow take” , fast swimming , head-shakes , steam train swimming, or bulldozers merely swimming with no stop to them, the shad bites , the salmon pick-up , the pompano or cracker “take” which could be ferocious at times. There are so many species out (Eds/Non-eds) there with each its own unique “take/bite” that I think such reading material could revive the “old fond” memories of young & old , & with each angler having his own experience as how he had experienced his catch which stood out for him.

We read a lot on how our terminal rigs should look like , how we prefer to make them for each specie, type of tackle, from mono to braid, breaking strain , from swivels to hooks, from the different types on the market , to sizes , from preferences of bait types which works for each angler & to the advantages & reasons of rigging up traces etc in a certain way or the other, & so we keep SL’s busy with very interesting & informative reading material & anglers improve day by day on every aspect of the angling sport & we will continue to read articles on the “how & what & where”.

Tomorrow we discuss new reels , new rods , new lines on the market , the latest technology & how it can improve or better our catch rate, hook-up rate & we dig deeper into our pockets to stay “in touch” or at least we try to have the best according to our own individual’s budget.......cause this is not a cheap sport.

I really think we can start a long interesting thread or at least attempt to tell our own stories wrt our catches & describing the “initial takes/bites” describe the fight etc,  be it a blacktail , shad , milky or monster shark - it all contributes to “great” reading material.  

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kopstamp

Sealiner
Good thread
Been fishing with Mike Pautz, he can do what you describe, tell me what the bite was. Me i am slowly getting there.

Will think of some bite actions and write the. Down.
 

willem wikkel spies

Moderator
Staff member
Ben Ben Ben, teen die tyd weet jy dat twee van dieslfde visse nie dieslfde gaan byt nie.

what I can ad is, "the pickup" of that live shad when you are holding rod in hand is a real thrill!!

the sad thing is, most of my fish was caught in a pension pipe.
cause I'm always busy with something.

there has been times where I was standing with rod in hand.
those pick-ups were nice.

the fish were Garrick and salmon. both just taking a small nibble of the live shad.
then its free spool time.

all my kingies that took live bait were caught in the pension pipe
so a pitty I never had the rod in hand to experience the pickup of those monsters.
they just normally pull the rod flat.

but it all depends on their swimming action at the time of the bait grabbing.

my first kingie, went side ways as I was fishing a gully and it had to swim with it to where it could take to the deep.

some were caught on plugs, now that's a real feeling of fishing.

another kingie had the same pick-up as a Garrick.

then the monster. he just pulled it flat and took of to the backline.
 

Ben REINERS

Sealiner
Staff member
@ Willem - jy is reg as jy dit se dat geen 2 visse dieselfde byt nie, & dis juis die doel vd storie om mede hengelaars se stories (eintlik ervarings & stories) te hoor , want as ek als moet beskryf dan haal jy die "fun" uit die verhaal uit ............................:fbashwat bedoel is om leesstof te word vir ander SL's:::S
 

willem wikkel spies

Moderator
Staff member
Ok Ben.
dalk n bietjie van die Topic af, maar het betrekking.

my eerse kabeljoue is op live mullets op st lucia gevang.
dit was in 1999.
ekt vier gekry daai trip, waarvan die grootste 23kg was.

die eerste twee het die mullet saggies opgetel.
hulle is gefree spool en later vasgemaak.

wat interessant was, die mullet was met twee kendals gehaak. no 3 en no5 Kendal, no3 deur die bek, no 5 deur die sy by die stert uit.
albei kabeljoue het die aas van agter af gesluk, menende die no 3 Kendal het in die bek vasgehaak met albei no 5 in die keel.

ek het nou al meer as my share salmons gevang so teen die tyd dink ek, ek weet hoe om hulle te kry.

die meeste het die aas van agter gegryp, nooit het ek die indruk gekry dat hulle probeer het om die aas kop eerste af te sluk nie.

die ou grote het ook n live mullet gevat, laat middag. my drag was te styf en het die vis die mulet gelos.
daai tyd het ek nog met kegel sinkers gehengel en was daar nie tyd vir intrek, uit gooi en wag nie.

ekt sommer n tweede mullet geslide net daar en dan.
die keer was die drag baie sag gestel.
5min later was die pickup daar.
dit was n wyfie en het my behoorlik geref met my purglass cast master 16vt



twee jaar gelede, slide ek n moerse groot shad in die mond.
so ruk later is daar n stamp aan die stok, maar niks verder nie.

die gety het gedraai waarna ek uitgetrek het.
tot verbasing was daar iets aan.
n salmon van so 4kg, wat n live shad van ver oor die 500 gram wou eet.
weereens net die 7 Kendal wat in die shad se stert was, het hom gehak.

en vele meer wat aas aan die stert kant gegryp het.
 

willem wikkel spies

Moderator
Staff member
gaan kyk jy na my Garrick vangste, sal jy sien dat hulle almal of meeste van hulle wat in die pension pyp gevang is, het die voorste hoek, wat deur shad se bek gaan, sit gewoonlik in die bek area of buite kant die bek en lippe gedeelte. die hoek wat in die stert was hang gewoonlik buite die bek uit.
so pension pyp werk nie baie goed vir Garrick nie.

die garraick wat ek met stok in die hand gevang het, en dadelik kon free spool het daai aas so mooi gesluk dat albei hoeke in die bek en keel was.

die groot ding is, waar om jou hoeke in die live bait te plaas sodat dit nie die sluk proses beinvloed nie.

dalk een deur die bek en dan net agter die kop vir Garrick.
maar sou n salmon van agter gryp gaan jy hom mis want die hoeke is ver voor in die aas.

dan het ek ook al baie gehad dat dalk snoek so tussen die hoeke in byt, shad in twee.

te veel hoeke trek aandag. te min mis jy vis.

ons kan net nie wen nie.
 

No-Pro

Senior Member
Personally I think it is different in different places too, whether it is west or east coast, rocks or surf, but my name says it all.
What I did actually notice with Kob in False Bay, Strandfontein side, was difference in take of the different sizes.
It seems that your small fish, especially the small, undersize (so-called boskabeljoutjies) of about 40-50cm, are young, inexperienced and often feeding competitively. They have quite a fierce strike for their size. If you park your rod in a rodstand with a light drag, there is often just a sudden whip of your rod and a short scream of the ratchet, because they hit it hard, but lack the strength to run it.
The bigger guys of about 3kg, tend to give 1-2-3 big plucks on the line and then run it a bit, but also lacking the power if the drag is a bit tight.
The 6kg+ ones, often are quite "skelm" and you often wonder if it is wishful thinking or was there a slight wriggle on the rod tip? Is it fish or water and under current, because we got quite a strong undercurrent and roll in our waters. It appears like there is 1-2-3 slight wriggles like water roll or is it nuisance barbells again and next thing it runs. With the initial burst of the run, you can see that bobbing head shakes, so not an entirely smooth run.
I don't know if others will agree, my personal observations and 2c worth.
 

Ben REINERS

Sealiner
Staff member
@ No Pro - You are quite correct by stating so & I must agree.

I actually started the story to hear from fellow anglers as a matter of interest, & to get their versions as anglers, so that the thread could be an informative reading topic rather than a teaching topic.
We have all caught many the common species of Eds/In-eds , though our experiences vastly differed from angler to angler.  

Thanks for sharing yr experience - its interesting to hear from other guys.
 
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