Tha fake flure guy
- Thread starter Ignobilis Lunker
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basslover wrote:
I do not approve of the wrong doing of this guy and legal action must be taken against him.
Just a word of caution,
You cannot post a pic of a persons identity on a public forum without the necessary authorization. If this guy comes across this posting he can take legal action against you and sadly to say you will come off second best. (It is a pitty that the public cannot take action into their own hands)
Rather open a case at the police station and provide them with the photo's of his identity, whereabouts and so on...
@ basslover,
I do not approve of the wrong doing of this guy and legal action must be taken against him.
Just a word of caution,
You cannot post a pic of a persons identity on a public forum without the necessary authorization. If this guy comes across this posting he can take legal action against you and sadly to say you will come off second best. (It is a pitty that the public cannot take action into their own hands)
Rather open a case at the police station and provide them with the photo's of his identity, whereabouts and so on...
regarleless of my mistakes and problems in the past, everyone is never perfect and yes I have had my share of problems however Im working things out. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES in life. I will continue making flures for fly fishermen so they may also experience the fun that so many have had with them over the year since i first created them.
Oh, and just by the way, the legal process is on the move so posting a picture of me will actually not be a good idea.
Regards
FLURE
Oh, and just by the way, the legal process is on the move so posting a picture of me will actually not be a good idea.
Regards
FLURE
@ Meanfish, you do not have to intimidate the guys with your statements. You are the CULPRIT in this case and believe me, if one of the okes pressed charges against you-you will have to face the consequence for your actions. The "law" does not care about YOUR apologies and what YOU are doing to rectify YOUR mistakes. The "law' will focus on your ACTIONS and what YOU have done. Fraud is a major charge and your highly paid legals (As you stated in a other post) should have told you this.
Although your product may be effective, do you really think the people is going to purchase your product after reading the posts about you?
Although your product may be effective, do you really think the people is going to purchase your product after reading the posts about you?
.Generaal.
New member
This is a general comment, but isn't it funny how criminals want justice when THEY have been wronged?
.Generaal. wrote:
uke
So true.....This is a general comment, but isn't it funny how criminals want justice when THEY have been wronged?
ukeHerman Nel
Senior Member
I got an idea!
FLUREGUY...POST A PIC OF YOURSELF HOLDING UP A FISH CAUGHT ON A FLURE.
A.) WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT A FLURE LOOKS LIKE
B.) WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE!
Thus some free publicity for your product,we can all ID you and nobody needs to sue anybody about a kiekie or two...
...Hell,I should be in politics!
Herman
FLUREGUY...POST A PIC OF YOURSELF HOLDING UP A FISH CAUGHT ON A FLURE.
A.) WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT A FLURE LOOKS LIKE
B.) WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE!
Thus some free publicity for your product,we can all ID you and nobody needs to sue anybody about a kiekie or two...
...Hell,I should be in politics!
Herman
Billaridoo
Senior Member
It is inspiring to see folks taking charge. Our legal systems around the world are flawed, mostly protecting those who we need protection from, causing us to seek DIY justice.....
Please, do keep us posted on this, but remember what the aim of this thread was. Mudslinging does not better anybody's possie.
My 2c
Please, do keep us posted on this, but remember what the aim of this thread was. Mudslinging does not better anybody's possie.
My 2c
khalaharikid
Sealiner
Ignobilis Lunker wrote:
You must open a case and get the law involved, it is strange how many counter charges start to get opened , sort yourself out chap
Hey Flure guy where are the two skis?????????????, Is this one of the mistales you talking about, are they not in your possession anymore???????? How you going to rectify that??????
You must open a case and get the law involved, it is strange how many counter charges start to get opened , sort yourself out chap
Herman Nel
Senior Member
Maybe while doing some time in jail,the govt can give him a spellchecker!LMAO
..."regarleless of my mistakes and problems in the past, everyone is never perfect and yes I have had my share of problems however Im working things out. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES in life. I will continue making flures for fly fishermen so they may also experience the fun that so many have had with them over the year since i first created them.
Oh, and just by the way, the legal process is on the move so posting a picture of me will actually not be a good idea."........WTF?
Flureguy,you are right,...it will not be "actually be a good idea posting a pic of you",....for you that is..,because more folks can identify you for doing them in!
"Run forest,run..."
..."regarleless of my mistakes and problems in the past, everyone is never perfect and yes I have had my share of problems however Im working things out. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES in life. I will continue making flures for fly fishermen so they may also experience the fun that so many have had with them over the year since i first created them.
Oh, and just by the way, the legal process is on the move so posting a picture of me will actually not be a good idea."........WTF?
Flureguy,you are right,...it will not be "actually be a good idea posting a pic of you",....for you that is..,because more folks can identify you for doing them in!
"Run forest,run..."
Billaridoo
Senior Member
khalaharikid, you caught my drift master!
What happened to IL's skis meanfish?
What happened to IL's skis meanfish?
Herman Nel
Senior Member
Here is some more mud for you Flureguy...
Your unique stealing skills,lying ability and conman attitude can come in handy in prison....you can steal some cigarettes and soap and trade them for an issue of "STYWE LYNE" with a prison warden to see what us folks are catching on the "outside" !
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Your unique stealing skills,lying ability and conman attitude can come in handy in prison....you can steal some cigarettes and soap and trade them for an issue of "STYWE LYNE" with a prison warden to see what us folks are catching on the "outside" !
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Herman Nel
Senior Member
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[align=center]More bad news Flureguy...just got this of the net,seems you aren't the inventor as you claim...you old fraudster you...[/align]
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[align=center][size=+3]FLURE~FISHING FOR TROUT
& OTHER PREDATORS[/size][font=Verdana sans-serif="sans-serif" helvetica,="Helvetica," arial,="Arial,"]
[/font][size=+3]—[/size][font=Verdana sans-serif="sans-serif" helvetica,="Helvetica," arial,="Arial,"] by Dr. Dickie Devereux [/font]—[/align]
[align=left][font="tahoma, arial, helvetica"]INTRODUCTION
by Brian Barwell, Assistant Editor
Dickie Devereux doesn't see any boundaries or divisions between his fly-fishing and lure-fishing. As far as he's concerned the two techniques overlap a lot, and so he's coined the word FLURES to describe the hybrid combination fly-spoons, fly-spinners and other hackles lures that he finds are so successful for trout and other predators. Here's his first article for us about flure-fishing and it's packed with ace hints and tips to increase your catch rate.[/font][/align]
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[align=left][font="tahoma, arial, helvetica"]
EFFECTIVE METHOD FOR TROUT
Although I'm a big fan of fly-fishing for all species especially for trout but also including pike, I'm just as keen on using my lure-angling skills when I'm out-and-about after trout so I use small hybrid combination flies and lures which I call FLURES [/font][font="tahoma, arial, helvetica"]— and I've found that flure-fishing is such an effective method! You should always check first, though, whether lure/flure fishing is permitted for trout on the venues you have in mind.[/font][/align]
[align=left]When I'm lightweight lure or flure-fishing, whether I'm after trout or any other predators, I habitually replace even the tiniest treble hooks on my flures with double or even single hooks. Also and although it does undoubtedly adversely affect the action of small flures, I always use a wire trace of about 15 lb BS when I'm after trout because you never know when there's a pike about .... and personally I'm not at all fussy about which species grabs my flures![/align]
FLURES
As for exactly which flures — hybrid combination flies and lures — that I use, almost anything small with a shiny blade and a hackles hook will do !
There are plenty to choose from such as Mepps Mouche, Stream-Mepps, fly-spinners, fly-spoons, hackled spinners such as Wordens Rooster Tails. I'm also very fond of some small Ondex hackled spinners that I have but sadly Rublex who made them are no longer in business.
It's also very easy to add some hackles to the hook of any lure to turn it into a flure. Trout are often found in flast-flowing water and your really need a willow-bladed spinner such as Mepps Aglia Longue to tackle these venues, and I've found that they produce even better results when the hook is hackled.
FLURE-END TACKLE
As I've said, I always use a wire trace when I'm flure-fishing but to keep the weight down at the flure-end of my tackle, I don't use swivels, snap-lock links, crimps or any of that stuff.
Instead I use a very cool idea that I got from an article ages ago, written by that fanatical all-round lure-angler John Worzencraft i.e. 12 to 18 inches of soft but strong wire, a 2 mm carp rig ring at each end and a small but strong stainless steel slip ring to attach my flures to the rig ring. It works perfectly and so far it has never let me down, unlike some of the small snap-lock links around! I should add that I usually add a tiny drop of waterprood superglue to the knotted wire and rig ring.
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FLURE-RODS, REELS & LINES
Also I should add at this stage that Editors Nick & Brian have asked me to try to be very specific about what tackle I have found best for flure-fishing. The problem is that manufacturers change their ranges of rods and reels so rapidly, or they go out-of-business, that it's quite difficult to keep up-to-speed with what's around that's good, especially when, like me, you're very happy fishing woth what you've got.
Rods
Personally I use an Abu (UK), a Fenwick (USA) and a BassPro (USA) rod for my lightweight flure-fishing — my favourite is probably my Fenwick HMG although I'm not sure how easy they are to get these days, but there's lots more information about rods for this and other styles of lure-fishing right here in Nick Caine's Top Tackle Section, so check it out !
Reels
Small fixed-spool reel sideal for lightweight flure-fishing used to be easily obtainable in the UK but nowadays they're not quite so easy to find — that said, £30 or £40 should get you something that's up to the job. Small Abus are a favourite of mine and I must admit that since up-grading to their centre-drag models, the smallest CD-4, I've never looked back nor had to look for another reel.
Lines
Like most lure-fishing enthusiasts I guess, for some years now I have been braided main lines based on Spectra and Dyneema. I have to say that in the early days, my initial experiences with them were not good and they were very expensive.
Since then there's been a big shake-down in the types of braids available, the quality has gone up and the prices have come down, which is all very good news. Even under pressure from the Editors, it's a job for me to pick an outright favourite braid for my lightweight flure-fishing because I tend to chop and change depending on which reel I'm using and what line is loaded on to it.
For lightweight flures I would say that I probably most use Relum Sufix Herculine and Berkley Whiplash braids. I have tried loads and loads of others and, for example, when I'm off-shore, deep-sea or big game fishing, I like to use TUF-Line and Power Pro. But for any lures in the medium and lightweight range, I reckon Herculine and Whiplash are very hard to beat for strength, low diameter, all-round performance and competitive prices.
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[align=left]Essentials for Success
As for the Essentials and Preferables that Brian has asked me to talk-about, I thought that I would tabulate them (below) for easy viewing:- [/align]
[align=center]ESSENTIAL Check-List[/align]
[align=center]PREFERABLE[/align]
[align=center]DEFRA Licence[/align]
[align=center]Mobile Phone[/align]
[align=center]Club Book / Venue permit[/align]
[align=center]Waterproof plasters[/align]
[align=center]Camouflaged clothing[/align]
[align=center]Long-peaked cap (camouflaged)[/align]
[align=center]Strong, long-nosed pliers[/align]
[align=center]Long artery forceps[/align]
[align=center]Large, soft, wide-mesh landing net [/align]
[align=center]Combined weigh-sling and unhooking mat [/align]
[align=center]Strong side/wire cutters[/align]
[align=center]Waterproof Super-glue[/align]
[align=center]Spare line[/align]
[align=center]Camera (wrapped in cling-film)[/align]
[align=center]Spare reel spool[/align]
[align=center]Weigh scales/Spring Balance[/align]
[align=center]Spare traces[/align]
[align=center]Strong scissors[/align]
[align=center]Good selection of fures[/align]
[align=center]Pen-knife[/align]
[align=center]Spare hooks & split-rings[/align]
[align=center]Refreshments[/align]
[align=center]Polarising glasses[/align]
[align=center]Pencil and Paper[/align]
[align=center]Bin liner[/align]
[align=center]Thigh-waders[/align]
[align=left]All the smaller items will fit nicely if a tad tightly in a fly-fishing shoulder bag — I also use a landing net with a sling so I can carry it over my shoulder too, leaving my hands free for my flure-fishing.[/align]
[align=left]Waders will always give you the edge and let you cast to parts that others can't reach, but always take great care when you're wading — I always use my landing-net handle as a wading staff ! [/align]
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[align=left]Safety
If you can, always fish with a friend — if I'm on my own I always take my mobile phone well-wrapped in cling-film. Check the weather forecast before you go and take suitable clothes — any fool can be uncomfortable ! And let someone know roughly where you're planning to fish.[/align]
[align=left]Check all around AND ABOVE before you cast and steer well clear of any power-lines or other hazards, especially in damp. misty weather.[/align]
[align=left]Venues
If you want to find the best local venues, ask in your local tackle shop and/or join your local Club — many of them have Exchnage Books with other Clubs as well ...... so much the better![/align]
[align=left]Club Rules & Regulations
If you lure and flure-fish, but don't fly-fish, check-out any Club's Rules and Regs BEFORE you join This may seem bvery obvious but I've knoiwn quite afew flure-fishing enthusisats who have been so keen to get on certain venues that they've not checked in advance whether or not flure-fishing is allowed.[/align]
[align=left]Care of the Environment
You can practise your casting without using a fly on the end of your line. I spent ages practising on my Village Green much to the amusement of the locals. But it helped tremendously because by the time I fly-fished in earnest for the first time, I felt very confident, and what's more, I was rewarded with three nice fish from our local stocked trout lake.[/align]
[align=left]Fight Pollution
Always keep a look-out for any signs of pollution, however small, and use a Public Phone Box to Free-phone 0800 80 70 60 to report anything suspicious — calls from your mobile phone won't be free even to this 0800 number![/align]
[align=left]Fly-fishing
And if you find that it's "Fly-fishing only" for trout on your venues, then why not have a go at this overlapping method if you haven't tried it before? And if you need a helping-hand to get you started, do have a look at the other articles about fly-fishing right here on Nick's web-site![/align]
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[align=center]ENJOY YOUR FLURE~FISHING !
Dickie Devereux[/align]
[align=center]More bad news Flureguy...just got this of the net,seems you aren't the inventor as you claim...you old fraudster you...[/align]
[align=center] [/align]
[align=center] [/align]
[align=center] [/align]
[align=center][size=+3]FLURE~FISHING FOR TROUT
& OTHER PREDATORS[/size][font=Verdana sans-serif="sans-serif" helvetica,="Helvetica," arial,="Arial,"]
[/font][size=+3]—[/size][font=Verdana sans-serif="sans-serif" helvetica,="Helvetica," arial,="Arial,"] by Dr. Dickie Devereux [/font]—[/align]
[align=left][font="tahoma, arial, helvetica"]INTRODUCTION
by Brian Barwell, Assistant Editor
Dickie Devereux doesn't see any boundaries or divisions between his fly-fishing and lure-fishing. As far as he's concerned the two techniques overlap a lot, and so he's coined the word FLURES to describe the hybrid combination fly-spoons, fly-spinners and other hackles lures that he finds are so successful for trout and other predators. Here's his first article for us about flure-fishing and it's packed with ace hints and tips to increase your catch rate.[/font][/align]
[align=center][font="tahoma, arial, helvetica"]
[align=left][font="tahoma, arial, helvetica"]
Although I'm a big fan of fly-fishing for all species especially for trout but also including pike, I'm just as keen on using my lure-angling skills when I'm out-and-about after trout so I use small hybrid combination flies and lures which I call FLURES [/font][font="tahoma, arial, helvetica"]— and I've found that flure-fishing is such an effective method! You should always check first, though, whether lure/flure fishing is permitted for trout on the venues you have in mind.[/font][/align]
[align=left]When I'm lightweight lure or flure-fishing, whether I'm after trout or any other predators, I habitually replace even the tiniest treble hooks on my flures with double or even single hooks. Also and although it does undoubtedly adversely affect the action of small flures, I always use a wire trace of about 15 lb BS when I'm after trout because you never know when there's a pike about .... and personally I'm not at all fussy about which species grabs my flures![/align]
FLURES
As for exactly which flures — hybrid combination flies and lures — that I use, almost anything small with a shiny blade and a hackles hook will do !
It's also very easy to add some hackles to the hook of any lure to turn it into a flure. Trout are often found in flast-flowing water and your really need a willow-bladed spinner such as Mepps Aglia Longue to tackle these venues, and I've found that they produce even better results when the hook is hackled.
FLURE-END TACKLE
As I've said, I always use a wire trace when I'm flure-fishing but to keep the weight down at the flure-end of my tackle, I don't use swivels, snap-lock links, crimps or any of that stuff.
Instead I use a very cool idea that I got from an article ages ago, written by that fanatical all-round lure-angler John Worzencraft i.e. 12 to 18 inches of soft but strong wire, a 2 mm carp rig ring at each end and a small but strong stainless steel slip ring to attach my flures to the rig ring. It works perfectly and so far it has never let me down, unlike some of the small snap-lock links around! I should add that I usually add a tiny drop of waterprood superglue to the knotted wire and rig ring.
[align=center]
FLURE-RODS, REELS & LINES
Also I should add at this stage that Editors Nick & Brian have asked me to try to be very specific about what tackle I have found best for flure-fishing. The problem is that manufacturers change their ranges of rods and reels so rapidly, or they go out-of-business, that it's quite difficult to keep up-to-speed with what's around that's good, especially when, like me, you're very happy fishing woth what you've got.
Rods
Personally I use an Abu (UK), a Fenwick (USA) and a BassPro (USA) rod for my lightweight flure-fishing — my favourite is probably my Fenwick HMG although I'm not sure how easy they are to get these days, but there's lots more information about rods for this and other styles of lure-fishing right here in Nick Caine's Top Tackle Section, so check it out !
Small fixed-spool reel sideal for lightweight flure-fishing used to be easily obtainable in the UK but nowadays they're not quite so easy to find — that said, £30 or £40 should get you something that's up to the job. Small Abus are a favourite of mine and I must admit that since up-grading to their centre-drag models, the smallest CD-4, I've never looked back nor had to look for another reel.
Lines
Like most lure-fishing enthusiasts I guess, for some years now I have been braided main lines based on Spectra and Dyneema. I have to say that in the early days, my initial experiences with them were not good and they were very expensive.
For lightweight flures I would say that I probably most use Relum Sufix Herculine and Berkley Whiplash braids. I have tried loads and loads of others and, for example, when I'm off-shore, deep-sea or big game fishing, I like to use TUF-Line and Power Pro. But for any lures in the medium and lightweight range, I reckon Herculine and Whiplash are very hard to beat for strength, low diameter, all-round performance and competitive prices.
[align=center]
[align=left]Essentials for Success
As for the Essentials and Preferables that Brian has asked me to talk-about, I thought that I would tabulate them (below) for easy viewing:- [/align]
[align=center]ESSENTIAL Check-List[/align]
[align=center]PREFERABLE[/align]
[align=center]DEFRA Licence[/align]
[align=center]Mobile Phone[/align]
[align=center]Club Book / Venue permit[/align]
[align=center]Waterproof plasters[/align]
[align=center]Camouflaged clothing[/align]
[align=center]Long-peaked cap (camouflaged)[/align]
[align=center]Strong, long-nosed pliers[/align]
[align=center]Long artery forceps[/align]
[align=center]Large, soft, wide-mesh landing net [/align]
[align=center]Combined weigh-sling and unhooking mat [/align]
[align=center]Strong side/wire cutters[/align]
[align=center]Waterproof Super-glue[/align]
[align=center]Spare line[/align]
[align=center]Camera (wrapped in cling-film)[/align]
[align=center]Spare reel spool[/align]
[align=center]Weigh scales/Spring Balance[/align]
[align=center]Spare traces[/align]
[align=center]Strong scissors[/align]
[align=center]Good selection of fures[/align]
[align=center]Pen-knife[/align]
[align=center]Spare hooks & split-rings[/align]
[align=center]Refreshments[/align]
[align=center]Polarising glasses[/align]
[align=center]Pencil and Paper[/align]
[align=center]Bin liner[/align]
[align=center]Thigh-waders[/align]
[align=left]All the smaller items will fit nicely if a tad tightly in a fly-fishing shoulder bag — I also use a landing net with a sling so I can carry it over my shoulder too, leaving my hands free for my flure-fishing.[/align]
[align=left]Waders will always give you the edge and let you cast to parts that others can't reach, but always take great care when you're wading — I always use my landing-net handle as a wading staff ! [/align]
[align=center]
[align=left]Safety
If you can, always fish with a friend — if I'm on my own I always take my mobile phone well-wrapped in cling-film. Check the weather forecast before you go and take suitable clothes — any fool can be uncomfortable ! And let someone know roughly where you're planning to fish.[/align]
[align=left]Check all around AND ABOVE before you cast and steer well clear of any power-lines or other hazards, especially in damp. misty weather.[/align]
[align=left]Venues
If you want to find the best local venues, ask in your local tackle shop and/or join your local Club — many of them have Exchnage Books with other Clubs as well ...... so much the better![/align]
[align=left]Club Rules & Regulations
If you lure and flure-fish, but don't fly-fish, check-out any Club's Rules and Regs BEFORE you join This may seem bvery obvious but I've knoiwn quite afew flure-fishing enthusisats who have been so keen to get on certain venues that they've not checked in advance whether or not flure-fishing is allowed.[/align]
[align=left]Care of the Environment
You can practise your casting without using a fly on the end of your line. I spent ages practising on my Village Green much to the amusement of the locals. But it helped tremendously because by the time I fly-fished in earnest for the first time, I felt very confident, and what's more, I was rewarded with three nice fish from our local stocked trout lake.[/align]
[align=left]Fight Pollution
Always keep a look-out for any signs of pollution, however small, and use a Public Phone Box to Free-phone 0800 80 70 60 to report anything suspicious — calls from your mobile phone won't be free even to this 0800 number![/align]
[align=left]Fly-fishing
And if you find that it's "Fly-fishing only" for trout on your venues, then why not have a go at this overlapping method if you haven't tried it before? And if you need a helping-hand to get you started, do have a look at the other articles about fly-fishing right here on Nick's web-site![/align]
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[align=center]ENJOY YOUR FLURE~FISHING !
Dickie Devereux[/align]