I have both the Sargus 4000 and an 4000 Excelar Plus,the Sargus being slightly smaller in physical size.I eventually bought the Excelar due to the frustration of the windknots I was getting on the Sargus,I put exactly the same braid on the Excelar and filled it to the max and to date I have not had a windknot.I am now using the sargus as a light boat because I feel its more robust but the excelar is far better for casting long hard casts.So it basically depends on what you want to do with it.