strange things on my beach....

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alreddyded

New member
I took my dog for a walk this evening and noticed two guys fishing with some rather peculiar tackle....loomis franklin rods with what seemed to me to be oddly shaped butts both were paired up with saltist reels....pretty much the same as the sealine I throw on my 11' one piece. they were throwing 5 ounces and bait. I struck up a conversation with the guys and they allowed me to throw the rod a few times...cool stuff. they were three piece rods, which seemed odd to me, typically most east coast surf fisherman here in the states favor one or two piece rods.... I find the difference in tackle and tactics fascinating. My son and I often experiment with different tactics and tackle in the surf as well as off shore and we both build most of our own rods...I guess that's an intro of sorts, maybe a warning, I'll just check the forum out...if I seem to ask stupid questions please bear in mind I'm a yank, not a wanker.

 
 
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OFC

Sealiner
:welcomesea: hope you enjoy the site!

when you say strange looking butt section! how did it look? is it possible for a discription?

and don't worry about coming from the states! nobody's perfect! LOL  :sha

oh ja! please just fill in your location on your profile!
 
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checkpoint

Senior Member
Yeah:welcomesea:bud,don't worry about what questions you ask,you'll find the guys extremely helpful on this site,so go ahead with your queries and oh btw::slr::-enjoy your stay!!!!!
 
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Nippy

Senior Member
:welcomesea:, please update your location. So we can tune in accordingly. Which "butt" are we referring to. LOL LOL, welcome.   :sa:
 
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alreddyded

New member
The guys I spoke with were from south africa, they were targeting nothing in particular...opportunistic bait fishing with two hook bottom rigs. although there have been many cobia caught recently(yes we have them here as well and they are around,it's that time of year), their rigging setup was more likley to bank a drum or a bluefish....those two species are similar to kob and elf respectivley. My son has recently caught a cobia in the 20 kilo range in a similar area, but the rigging was WAY different.

the rod butts, as I mentioned were a bit different than those used by most yans in the surf in that the reel seats were located approx. 18cm(6") from the butt cap. what struck me as odd is the fact that many competetive distance casters in the states favor that configuration for their competetive rods, but not the rods they actually fish with. the standard surf rod configuration in the states typically has a much longer butt section....typically the reel seat is locateda bit beyond an arms length above the terminus of the butt which facilitates a near ergonomically correct pendulum cast. Now I'm not afraid to tell you that I could not throw either of those rods what I deem a respectable distance....the configuration felt awkward to me, I'm sure I could get used to it, but the rods in a slightly shorter length(10-12 feet) feel right in my hands and I am able to cast most of them further than 100 meters with relative ease. I often throw eight to ten ounces(280 gms) these distances. I guess I am curious as to why that particular configuration is more typical in south africa?

my son and I bulid most of our own rods, and I prefer plate type reel seats for most conventional(non-spinning) surf rods. It would be awfully easy for me to modify some of my existing tackle to experiment a bit, I'll let you know how it goes.

I was only able to throw them about 30 meters.....I was laughing at myself.  A!
 
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Enigma

Moderator
Sounds like our typical overhead casting tackle where the Multiplier reel is fitted on top.

Using the fighting bucket one can apply hug pressure to big sharks etc, much the same as trolling outfits on boats.

With practice and the right balance of tackle ie:

14' HMG 3 Piece

Trinidad TN30

0.45 or 50mm line and a decent casting leader,

one will average around 140-150m with the setup and some of the bigger more proficient guys here can go to over 200m.

To get the cast right and more comfortable one would reverse your grip that you would have with the Multiplier further up the rod.

Check these you.tube clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m88woeW4vHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNu0EKrbjFw&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omChOyXaFQc&feature=related

The last one although a bunch of limey's show how to cast the rod configration and how it is used for fighting big fish

The only rods sold for surf angling with a longer but section here are those used with the spinning reel.
 
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