Spearfishing at Inanda Dam for Bass
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Hi
National rules and ordinances are very clear. YOu may not spear by hand spear or speargun in any freshwater system.
From what I can see this guy apart from spearing ilegaly he also exceeded his limit on bass allowed per day.
Saying this is OK is saying that gill netting for Grunter and taking excessive numbers and or undersize fish is OK
Freshwater fish are in a captive environment and rely solely on catch and release for population maintenance.
These fish that are removed are prime breeding stock.
The argument that these fish are pests and your condoning his actions would then in your eyes make it acceptabler if I killed and sold all the Barble and sharks I catch in the
surf.
It is also apparent that this is an ongoing activity as the poster was aware of this and looking to get hold of him.
Just as Beertjie was trialed for his landing and photographing the GW this guy must be brought to book as he has commited an offence.
What's going happen when he is ready to go to sea, Shoot 10 x 1m plus kob a day and sell them for petrol.
Post it all over social media if you want to name and shame but I would rather see this go to court as what you have here is plenty enough evidence for a conviction.
National rules and ordinances are very clear. YOu may not spear by hand spear or speargun in any freshwater system.
From what I can see this guy apart from spearing ilegaly he also exceeded his limit on bass allowed per day.
Saying this is OK is saying that gill netting for Grunter and taking excessive numbers and or undersize fish is OK
Freshwater fish are in a captive environment and rely solely on catch and release for population maintenance.
These fish that are removed are prime breeding stock.
The argument that these fish are pests and your condoning his actions would then in your eyes make it acceptabler if I killed and sold all the Barble and sharks I catch in the
surf.
It is also apparent that this is an ongoing activity as the poster was aware of this and looking to get hold of him.
Just as Beertjie was trialed for his landing and photographing the GW this guy must be brought to book as he has commited an offence.
What's going happen when he is ready to go to sea, Shoot 10 x 1m plus kob a day and sell them for petrol.
Post it all over social media if you want to name and shame but I would rather see this go to court as what you have here is plenty enough evidence for a conviction.
Hi
National rules and ordinances are very clear. YOu may not spear by hand spear or speargun in any freshwater system.
From what I can see this guy apart from spearing ilegaly he also exceeded his limit on bass allowed per day.
Saying this is OK is saying that gill netting for Grunter and taking excessive numbers and or undersize fish is OK
Freshwater fish are in a captive environment and rely solely on catch and release for population maintenance.
These fish that are removed are prime breeding stock.
The argument that these fish are pests and your condoning his actions would then in your eyes make it acceptabler if I killed and sold all the Barble and sharks I catch in the
surf.
It is also apparent that this is an ongoing activity as the poster was aware of this and looking to get hold of him.
Just as Beertjie was trialed for his landing and photographing the GW this guy must be brought to book as he has commited an offence.
What's going happen when he is ready to go to sea, Shoot 10 x 1m plus kob a day and sell them for petrol.
Post it all over social media if you want to name and shame but I would rather see this go to court as what you have here is plenty enough evidence for a conviction.
National rules and ordinances are very clear. YOu may not spear by hand spear or speargun in any freshwater system.
From what I can see this guy apart from spearing ilegaly he also exceeded his limit on bass allowed per day.
Saying this is OK is saying that gill netting for Grunter and taking excessive numbers and or undersize fish is OK
Freshwater fish are in a captive environment and rely solely on catch and release for population maintenance.
These fish that are removed are prime breeding stock.
The argument that these fish are pests and your condoning his actions would then in your eyes make it acceptabler if I killed and sold all the Barble and sharks I catch in the
surf.
It is also apparent that this is an ongoing activity as the poster was aware of this and looking to get hold of him.
Just as Beertjie was trialed for his landing and photographing the GW this guy must be brought to book as he has commited an offence.
What's going happen when he is ready to go to sea, Shoot 10 x 1m plus kob a day and sell them for petrol.
Post it all over social media if you want to name and shame but I would rather see this go to court as what you have here is plenty enough evidence for a conviction.
Dingleberry
Senior Member
Dingleberry
Senior Member
Enigma wrote:
Exploiting indigenous fish is not the same as culling exotic species that may be damaging local eco systems. While we, as fishermen, are sympathetic to all species of fish, one has to recognize that some damage may have been done and could still be reversed to an extent. Bass and trout fishing have always been an enjoyable passtime for me and I can appreciate the economic benefit of these fisheries in SA. Many respected figures in SA's fauna management entities have expressed that there is an urgent need to manage the spread and control the effect of exotic species on our indigenous populations. Remember, the authorities take habitat invasion seriously enough to limit the transportation of aquatic life through legislation. Those laws are far clearer than the ones mentioned earlier in the thread. All I am saying is either they are on the hit list or not....and if they are, the quicker and cleaner the methods employed, the better!
Love y'all.
Hi Enigma
Exploiting indigenous fish is not the same as culling exotic species that may be damaging local eco systems. While we, as fishermen, are sympathetic to all species of fish, one has to recognize that some damage may have been done and could still be reversed to an extent. Bass and trout fishing have always been an enjoyable passtime for me and I can appreciate the economic benefit of these fisheries in SA. Many respected figures in SA's fauna management entities have expressed that there is an urgent need to manage the spread and control the effect of exotic species on our indigenous populations. Remember, the authorities take habitat invasion seriously enough to limit the transportation of aquatic life through legislation. Those laws are far clearer than the ones mentioned earlier in the thread. All I am saying is either they are on the hit list or not....and if they are, the quicker and cleaner the methods employed, the better!
Love y'all.
Let's look at things this way, we have exotic fish species, most of which live in "exotic" man made dams that are bordered by or sometimes covered by exotic plant species. So which should we eradicate first???? Because it's the dams that have restricted the flow of water to coastal rivers which has resulted in shallow silted up rivers that no longer sustain the amount of life that they used to and that effects me way more than some bass swimming around in a dam.
You see we can hypothetically debate exotic species etc all day but the point of this thread is that someone was caught in the act of an illegal activity and now people are trying to shift the focus off the illegal act!!!!
You see we can hypothetically debate exotic species etc all day but the point of this thread is that someone was caught in the act of an illegal activity and now people are trying to shift the focus off the illegal act!!!!
siltation of rivers is not always caused by dams, more likely poor agricultural practices. the government is already spending millions on eradicating alien plants so a huge effort nationally is under way to try and control as many studies and practical experience have shown that leaving alien plants to spread uncontrolled is having serious environmental and economical consequences. Alien fish in the wrong place can caues lots of problems as well.
I have been on many work sessions regarding "alien" species.
Some have been here almost and more than 200 years and are now endemic.
The Sharptooth Catgish, indigenous to South Africa has been introduced to the Western and Eastern Cape is now a greater threat to Western Cape naturally occurring species than any introduced species.
The Smallmouth Yellowfish and Tilapia have been are pest fish in Western and Eastern Cape.
The Common Carp has been in our waters for more than 150 years and has not eradicated any naturally occurring species. It has been classed as endemic and is regulated. One can farm them, one can transfer them with permits as with Bass and Kurper and Catfish.
The common carp and largemouth bass provide more job opportunities than any indigenous fish.
1. Aquaculture
2. Sport Angling
3. Commercial Harvesting and sale of meat (Regulated).
Some have been here almost and more than 200 years and are now endemic.
The Sharptooth Catgish, indigenous to South Africa has been introduced to the Western and Eastern Cape is now a greater threat to Western Cape naturally occurring species than any introduced species.
The Smallmouth Yellowfish and Tilapia have been are pest fish in Western and Eastern Cape.
The Common Carp has been in our waters for more than 150 years and has not eradicated any naturally occurring species. It has been classed as endemic and is regulated. One can farm them, one can transfer them with permits as with Bass and Kurper and Catfish.
The common carp and largemouth bass provide more job opportunities than any indigenous fish.
1. Aquaculture
2. Sport Angling
3. Commercial Harvesting and sale of meat (Regulated).
DeWaLdMeYeR1
Member
I am not that much in the know about bass bag limits, but a few of you have refered to the culprit taking more than his limit, so I hopefully correctly asume bag limits are implemented. If bass was that big a hassle why would limits have been implemented. That guy is in the wrong in more than one way finish en kla!
agreed sorry for the highjack bottom line is it is illegal to spearfish in dams in SA. just a note though a European and Aborigine are just different races of the same species. From an ecological perspective they are pretty much the same - humans. Barbel, carp bass, yellowfish, blue gill are all different species that can have very different impacts from an ecological perspective depending on the system they live in or are introduced to. Humans have already introduced ourselves across the planet with varying impacts. We, however are spreading other organisms across the planet and this can have impacts on species in the native system.
The Europeans didn't eat the Aborigines but were issued permits to hunt them.
The argument wasn't purely scientific but I do agree with the human race spreading everything all over ie the Yellowfish, Barble and Kurper.
It is known that the scarcest resource is freshwater and for human settlements to survive water must be provided.
With the inherrent shortage of water in the Semi Arid RSA water has to be moved for the sustaining of Human Settlements. As drinking water and as irrigation..
For this purpose the RSA government has implemented many water schemes to supplement one another and hence:
Gariep and Orange River water routed to the Small Karoo via canals into the Darlington Dam
The Vaalharts scheme drawing water from Limpopo System and east flowing waters resulting in 3 sport Barbs and Kurper ending up in the Vaalharts agricultural irrigation scheme and from there into the Spitskop dam and from there into the Vaal.
Highlands water scheme moving yellowfish strains over the Drakensberg.
SO on one hand lets manage and contain the alien fish but on the other for humans to be sustained transport them all over, we're even weighing Blue Kurper in the Vall and there it is an Alien species.
It is inevitable and can already not be reversed.
It's survival of the fittest and the most resilient and man once again through his thought out or irresponsible actions has sped up the process and in some cases assisted the process.
We then realized the folly of our ways and accepted the inevitable and provided rules and regulations on these fish. Case in point ie Large Mouth Black Bass, minimum Length 20cm and a maximum of 6 Bass in Gauteng or 2 in KZN to be killed per day.
The argument wasn't purely scientific but I do agree with the human race spreading everything all over ie the Yellowfish, Barble and Kurper.
It is known that the scarcest resource is freshwater and for human settlements to survive water must be provided.
With the inherrent shortage of water in the Semi Arid RSA water has to be moved for the sustaining of Human Settlements. As drinking water and as irrigation..
For this purpose the RSA government has implemented many water schemes to supplement one another and hence:
Gariep and Orange River water routed to the Small Karoo via canals into the Darlington Dam
The Vaalharts scheme drawing water from Limpopo System and east flowing waters resulting in 3 sport Barbs and Kurper ending up in the Vaalharts agricultural irrigation scheme and from there into the Spitskop dam and from there into the Vaal.
Highlands water scheme moving yellowfish strains over the Drakensberg.
SO on one hand lets manage and contain the alien fish but on the other for humans to be sustained transport them all over, we're even weighing Blue Kurper in the Vall and there it is an Alien species.
It is inevitable and can already not be reversed.
It's survival of the fittest and the most resilient and man once again through his thought out or irresponsible actions has sped up the process and in some cases assisted the process.
We then realized the folly of our ways and accepted the inevitable and provided rules and regulations on these fish. Case in point ie Large Mouth Black Bass, minimum Length 20cm and a maximum of 6 Bass in Gauteng or 2 in KZN to be killed per day.
Proper fisheries scientists are not worried about exotic across national borders. The spread between catchment is the real problem. whether the original catchment was in the US or just over the nearest mountain range is not important. I see no difference between small mouth bass or barbel in the Western Cape. They are both equally alien to those catchments and should be "managed" with equal vigour.
While I realise many exotics have been with us for hundreds of years, who knows what has disappeared from this waters without us even knowing they existed? Philosophical, I know, but fish are just one component of a complex system.
Thank goodness for holistic scientists who look at the whole picture, unlike the resource users who tend to only look at the bits relevant to them.
And to make this post relevant to the topic.... I am in favour of spearing exotic fish in our waters. It is an excellent way if targeting species with no by-catch. Call me a greenie or a tree-hugger if you must, I Will take it as a compliment.
While I realise many exotics have been with us for hundreds of years, who knows what has disappeared from this waters without us even knowing they existed? Philosophical, I know, but fish are just one component of a complex system.
Thank goodness for holistic scientists who look at the whole picture, unlike the resource users who tend to only look at the bits relevant to them.
And to make this post relevant to the topic.... I am in favour of spearing exotic fish in our waters. It is an excellent way if targeting species with no by-catch. Call me a greenie or a tree-hugger if you must, I Will take it as a compliment.