Rig Tubing vs Leadcore

Klipperus

New member
Well guys as they have warned me i broke my first splicing needle...Darn!!! I did get to make 8 rigs that should last me a while till im gonna need to buy one again.

What do you guys think are the best to use between these two and then theres Tungsten Tubing.

With the carp care and anti tangle idea behind it?
 

MadCarper

Sealiner
Hmmm... both are good and its either or. But there is one thing I would say about leadcore. its no good near snags, because it cuts into the snag...e.g. into reeds, thick waterplants, and most probably softish wood... tubing would prevent this up to a point...

The biggest problem is the way leadcore is "mounted" onto the mainline. The only way leadcore should be joined to the mainline is via a loop-to-loop, or a splicing-knot where the mainline goes into the leadcore and is secured around it. in the event that you get a break-off the safety-clip or weight has to be able to slide over the "knot" between the leadcore and mainline!!! So you cant use a swivel to join mainline to leadcore, or use a big bulky knot, that will prevent the safety-clip or weight to be "discharged"...!

both should assist with the anti-tangle, but the type of rig you have also contributes to being anti-tangle or not... e.g. a supple uncoated braid rig would be more prone to tangling on the cast, than a coated braid hooklink or a mono/flourocarbon rig.

To prevent tangles, use a method bomb around the weight, or better, a small pva bag onto the hook...
 

pappi choulo

Senior Member
eish klippies, that's a tough one! i'd say they both have their plusses and minuses. on a nice hard bottom i like leadcore 'cos it keeps everything nice and flat on the ground. in weed and snaggy water leadcore seems to me to be a waste of time and money and i'd opt for tubing....
 

Spod

Senior Member
Klippies. Firstly, welcome to the club, I still break those flimsy little needles man...&%$#@! and often too, they just too fine and brittle, the latch goes or the hook breaks.... R82 per set of two, Fox, doesnt get too much mileage for money!
What my son brought home one day works better than a needle..... wannna know what it was?????

It was a small threading tool, comprising of a steel handle, with a small (about 50mm long, thin wire element, you stab the leadcore casing holding the thin wire, not too difficultly and exit the side, just like the needle, then you thread the leadcore casing into the wire element, in the big opening, and lubricate with spit and work it back through the casing and out the side again. when you get to this point, you will see that the leadcore casing has moved in the wire to the end, or small opening, clamped so it cant move, unlike the needle that seems to strip the weave of the casing, like you were experiencing earlier.
Seems to work not too bad, and heres the beaut part...dirt cheap!

Topic:

OK, some time ago, on another forum, and Im sure MC will back me, we discussed this same subject in detail and in length...ehhhrrr even maybe a boxing match lol! But a good friend, and well experienced Specimen angler(a guru)hehe, who is leaving for Aussy, helped us to think about these two leaders, and their correct uses.

Look, as a rule of thumb, out of the discussion, was concluded,

NON SNAGY waters...you can use leadcore. (600mm to 1m)
Remember to anneal the leadcore before using it, by running it through your forefinger and thumbnail a couple of times to heat it up a bit, this makes it settle and more supple. Suggest the grinner knot on main line to leader loop, neat knot, not bulky. (lead assembly or safety clip can pass over it)

SNAGY waters use a flocarb leader (10m)and tubing, if you worried about the line not settling on the bottom of the dam, use tungsten tubing, which is a weighted tubing, if you need more weight, use a small flying back lead. near the tubing assembly and not really on the tubing. Just remember, here, it may need a bit of drilling so as to pass over your fancy leader/mainline knot, like your main lead/system should. suggest an albright knot here, as the grinner may keep breaking, made neatly, the albright clamps down small and tight. or the more difficult Mahin knot, if casting with the taper effect. but Ive found the albright no too bad casting, if its neat.

You can get away with using the flocarb leader most of the time, for most applications/situations though, but not with leadcore, I think MC & PC covered the reasons well there.

Both leades if made correctly are Carp Care safe. otherwise they wouldnt be on the shelf.lol!
I personally prefer the mono route with tubing, firstly, tubing is softer and thicker, so scale lifting should be less.(not that there should be with either!)
 
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