question for cob fisherman

[foot soldier]

rod,overhead,10ft shimano tiralejo 8 to 15kg,cast weight 40 to 80gram,,,,,,reel,diawa saltist 20h,,,,,line,40pound powerpro,,,,,lure,xrap14,,,,2 questions,,,1)has anyone magged this reel specifically to cast raps?,,,,2)weighted trebles for the raps,,,are yous weighting them for casting distance only,or to get them to sink aswell?

 

[TOE 007]

foot soldier wrote:

rod,overhead,10ft shimano tiralejo 8 to 15kg,cast weight 40 to 80gram,,,,,,reel,diawa saltist 20h,,,,,line,40pound powerpro,,,,,lure,xrap14,,,,2 questions,,,1)has anyone magged this reel specifically to cast raps?,,,,2)weighted trebles for the raps,,,are yous weighting them for casting distance only,or to get them to sink aswell?

 

 

Howzit man , i have not magged a reel , and are a bit in the dark about how and whys ?

i have spent weeks on end casting lures , but lipped lures you want to use , the weighted trebles i only used ,specificly for distance , if it helps them sink a bit faster it does not matter , cause we fish for Kob , your Mulloway in Ausie land .my Lure average from 3 Oz to 4 Oz , the weighted hooks you find here in SA you can add an once to each hook and cast a mile with the setup you fishing !

I do think it will be a factor when you targeting species , that feeds higher up in the water colum , GTs , Queenies , Barracoudas , Spanish Mackrells .As i said for bottom feeders the weighted trebles works like a charm .
why not share a bit of info on magged reels ??

My 2 cents

 

[foot soldier]

cheers 007,i will have to play around with adding weight to my rapalas,although i remove the front treble all together and fish with a larger single hook on the rear,the reason for this is ive found on the sand on a slow retrieve that the front treble "grabs" the sands and kills the action of the lure,if you know what im trying to say.Might try adding a slit ring and a teardrop sinker or bomb sinker to the front tow point and see how that goes...As for magging reels,,theres 2 ways of controlling an overhead reel,1)the old way,oil viscosity and brake blocks,which works well,but has its flaws,the main one being,get the brake blocks wet and they become useless as they work off friction...2)the new way,magnets,a far more consistant braking system,im no expert on the subject but its worked well for me,try searching the net for"magging an avet reel" this is the reel most guys mag,it takes a bit of mucking around to get it right,but once its right you will get better distance than using brake blocks and no over runs at all,its magic,you can also do away with oil in the bearings these days if you want to lash out and get a set of ceramic bearings

 

[Bruce Schenk]

Hi

Here in SA we fish a lot for cob on artificials

Standard outfit would be 14.6 rod, overhead real eg saltist/saltiga 30, spooled 0.40 nylon, not braid

Mainline onto bimini onto 9m 0.60 leader, direct onto lure with a loop knot

Lures : Xrap fine, also Yozuri ali magnet. most floating lipped lures work.

Only weight the middle hook, any weighting on back hook kills the lures action

You easily cast this setup over 100m

In SA you need long casts to get onto back bank

Braid is great, but unfortunately on overhead reels you just cant cast anywhere as far as with nylon

We also catch a lot on dropshot. paddletails and jerkshads.

cheers

bruce

 

[Bruce Schenk]

Hi

Here in SA we fish a lot for cob on artificials

Standard outfit would be 14.6 rod, overhead real eg saltist/saltiga 30, spooled 0.40 nylon, not braid

Mainline onto bimini onto 9m 0.60 leader, direct onto lure with a loop knot

Lures : Xrap fine, also Yozuri ali magnet. most floating lipped lures work.

Only weight the middle hook, any weighting on back hook kills the lures action

You easily cast this setup over 100m

In SA you need long casts to get onto back bank

Braid is great, but unfortunately on overhead reels you just cant cast anywhere as far as with nylon

We also catch a lot on dropshot. paddletails and jerkshads.

cheers

bruce

 

[foot soldier]

cheers,i have a 13ft setup for the 18cm lures,got a smaller run of fish up to about 15kg that shold be here any day now,ive magged the saltist 20h,removed the front treble from the smaller xraps and replaced with a split ring and 1 ounce teardrop sinker,i ll be trying it tonight,,good conditions today,41 degree celcius,offshore hot wind,low swell,afternoon high tide,cool change with storms hitting as the sun sets,hopefully the fish will behave themselves and eat my lure!

 

[Bruce Schenk]

cool

what we do with the middle hook, is replace it with a slightly larger treble than the standard, and then mould lead around it.

A quick and nasty way of making a mould is to cut a strip from an empty beer can, wrap around the treb, put the base in sand, and pur in the lead. You can then neaten up the weighted hook with a pair of snips and file. The nice part about this is you can make different weights for different conditions.

For long casts try the smaller 14cm lures with weighted middle hooks.

I would also remove any mag or evenwinder systems for longer casts.

luck

cheers

bruce

 

 

[subaruseun]

bruce.

what rod would you recommend to cast jerk shads, flukes to a distance of 110m?

i have a saltiga 50, a saltist 40 9all to big) and a sealine slh30 9probably a decent size) and 3 14foot heavy to medium rods all of which are conventional surf rods with which i can regularly hit 120m+, from what i have heard, these rods are too heavy.
i do lot of drop shot off the kayak and want to extend this to rock and surf drop shot.

cheers mate.

 

[subaruseun]

bruce.

what rod would you recommend to cast jerk shads, flukes to a distance of 110m?

i have a saltiga 50, a saltist 40 '(all to big) and a sealine slh30 9probably a decent size) and 3 14foot heavy to medium rods all of which are conventional surf rods with which i can regularly hit 120m+, from what i have heard, these rods are too heavy.
i do lot of drop shot off the kayak and want to extend this to rock and surf drop shot.

cheers mate.