Pulley Rig

[thebigman]

Use the pulley rig a lot in the UK for rough ground fishing, it helps ensure that the lead gets up out of the way of snags on the retrieve. If it helps my version is here - http://www.planetseafishing.com/rigs/Pulley-Rig/%20%20title=Pulley-Rig

I suspect you might have to beef up the components for your fishing

 

[TOE 007]

heavy pulley rig wonder what that hardware costs , i can get really pricey loosing them ....dig the electrical farrel for protection , lol

 

[Longname]

thebigman wrote:

Use the pulley rig a lot in the UK for rough ground fishing, it helps ensure that the lead gets up out of the way of snags on the retrieve. If it helps my version is here - http://www.planetseafishing.com/rigs/Pulley-Rig/%20%20title=Pulley-Rig

I suspect you might have to beef up the components for your fishing

I like your rig. Nice and simple. I'm not the expert here, but I suspect that the specs in your diagram is more than adequate for our edibles.

 

[Longname]

TOE 007 wrote:

heavy pulley rig wonder what that hardware costs , i can get really pricey loosing them ....dig the electrical farrel for protection , lol

The rig that I posted the picture (Page 1) - UK Pounds 2.03 = R22.88 excl postage

Wish the importers will also get this for us. They already import quite a number of Breakaway items.

 

[TOE 007]

OneWithFishingGodsOnStrike wrote:

TOE 007 wrote:

heavy pulley rig wonder what that hardware costs , i can get really pricey loosing them ....dig the electrical farrel for protection , lol

The rig that I posted the picture (Page 1) - UK Pounds 2.03 = R22.88 excl postage

Wish the importers will also get this for us. They already import quite a number of Breakaway items.

its pretty crazy , i would give it ago , but with a circle 0/7 vmc the rig without a sinker is over 30 bucks al ready !

i do moan about the fact that one has to use 3 swivels , but on the other hand sometimes these innovations are more trouble than usefull , i am not doubting wether they wil pull fish , in my opinion i keep my rigs as straight foward as possible , on a other old thread i have seen similar clips .

very intresting though !

 

[jade fish]

I fully agree 007, keep it as simple as possible far less can go wrong.

having said that my proposed solution would be to use some Fireline no more kinking on that spot. I hope it helps

 

[thebigman]

The swivel bead might help with your line kinks - http://www.matchmansupplies.co.uk/drennan_swivel_beads.html

Not sure if the ones available here would be strong enough for your fish though

 

[thebigman]

Slightly bigger version here - http://www.leadertec.com/store/product.php?xSearch=&xProd=82&xSec=26&currency=4

Or out of the box a bit - http://www.leadertec.com/store/product.php?xProd=406&xSec=26

They're designed to be crimped to the line but would slide no probs if a larger diameter was used with a silicon tube insert

 

[TOE 007]

jade fish wrote:

I fully agree 007, keep it as simple as possible far less can go wrong.

having said that my proposed solution would be to use some Fireline no more kinking on that spot. I hope it helps

i have never tried it , but have though of it , using tennis racket string  for the pulley part ,for heavier rigs  depends on your knots  but i have also found that maxima is not the best for the pulley , look before i get shot i do use it and its a very good leader and trace line , Tline i have found to not kink up like the harder conterparts AS much KF is also good ,tline is dirt chap too .

jujst for a matter if intrest how long do you guys make your pulley ? mine can range form 20cm to 50 cm , most polular being the longer rig .

 

[Sailfish]

TOE 007 wrote:

jade fish wrote:

I fully agree 007, keep it as simple as possible far less can go wrong.

having said that my proposed solution would be to use some Fireline no more kinking on that spot. I hope it helps

i have never tried it , but have though of it , using tennis racket string  for the pulley part ,for heavier rigs  depends on your knots  but i have also found that maxima is not the best for the pulley , look before i get shot i do use it and its a very good leader and trace line , Tline i have found to not kink up like the harder conterparts AS much KF is also good ,tline is dirt chap too .

jujst for a matter if intrest how long do you guys make your pulley ? mine can range form 20cm to 50 cm , most polular being the longer rig .

80cm - 100cm on the pully. Give the finnegy fish some time to swim away before the sinker sets the hook. Also to get the bait away from the grab sinker if you target sandies and rays. They tend to scatter if the grabs of the sinker sting them when they come closer to feed.

 

[BigBass]

For the past 4 - 5 years, the Pulley Rig has been my all-time favourite all-round surf rig!  :first

Instead of the usual swivel (or 3-way swivel) for the movable "pulley portion" of the rig and the connection to your mainline/ shockleader, I use a size 5 solid ring (Owner). The stainless steel solid ring is thicker gauge and smoother than a swivel eye and is kinder to the pulley line - it is also very strong. Just remember: No less than 0.80mm mono diameter for the pulley line portion of the rig (also remember the beads on either side of the ring next to the knots near each swivel).

Using this setup in protracted fights with kob, large smoothhound  and flatfish, there have been no losses and no sign of damage to the pulley portion of the line ...

Grapnel sinker (5oz or 6oz) and a 7/0 or 8/0 Gamakatsu circle hook at the business end ...

The result !

 

[TOE 007]

BigBass wrote:

For the past 4 - 5 years, the Pulley Rig has been my all-time favourite all-round surf rig!  :first

Instead of the usual swivel (or 3-way swivel) for the movable "pulley portion" of the rig and the connection to your mainline/ shockleader, I use a size 5 solid ring (Owner). The stainless steel solid ring is thicker gauge and smoother than a swivel eye and is kinder to the pulley line - it is also very strong. Just remember: No less than 0.80mm mono diameter for the pulley line portion of the rig (also remember the beads on either side of the ring next to the knots near each swivel).

Using this setup in protracted fights with kob, large smoothhound  and flatfish, there have been no losses and no sign of damage to the pulley portion of the line ...

Grapnel sinker (5oz or 6oz) and a 7/0 or 8/0 Gamakatsu circle hook at the business end ...

The result !

 yep i love fishing wioth pulley rigs , theres like above mentioned there loads of variations , i also wanted to use a solid ring , but i have seen rigs with swivels on the grapnel , so your sinker pulls up completely , for the fight . I do have a couple of dodgy 3 ways witch i am nogal sceptical about . lol

@ sailie , i am not into sandies , or lessers i will be making my grapnel wires even LONGER  lol

 

[Longname]

TOE 007 wrote:

jade fish wrote:

I fully agree 007, keep it as simple as possible far less can go wrong.

having said that my proposed solution would be to use some Fireline no more kinking on that spot. I hope it helps

i have never tried it , but have though of it , using tennis racket string  for the pulley part ,for heavier rigs  depends on your knots  but i have also found that maxima is not the best for the pulley , look before i get shot i do use it and its a very good leader and trace line , Tline i have found to not kink up like the harder conterparts AS much KF is also good ,tline is dirt chap too .

jujst for a matter if intrest how long do you guys make your pulley ? mine can range form 20cm to 50 cm , most polular being the longer rig .

Fireline, is a very good idea! Hate fishing with Fireline, but damm, its the strongest line ever. Try breaking off a 50Lb Fireline if you get snagged above your traces! No matter how careful you are, you will end up ruining the padded handles on your favorite pliers, and still end up with a bloody finger or two. And guess what, the line will still be quite intact. You'll end up cutting it, for sure. But you won't break it.

Tennis racket string will also work, but making a knot in that.. will take some skill. Maybe it can just be crimped with a light sleeve?

 

[thebigman]

Good thinking there Bigbass, simplest ideas are usually the best

 

[Arno Nel]

What would the pulley rig be used for. Does this not work on a similiar way as a limited slideing sinker rig?

 

[BigBass]

Arno Nel wrote:

What would the pulley rig be used for. Does this not work on a similiar way as a limited slideing sinker rig?

Hi, Arno.

Do a search on SEALINE for "Pulley Rig" and "Limited Sliding Sinker Rig". Much has already been written about both. They are both excellent and versatile rigs, but work on a different principle.

In the Pulley Rig, the hook line is directly connected to the sinker line and the mainline is connected to the pulley connection (swivel or solid ring) which slides on the line between the hook and the sinker. Initially, I thought this British invention would not work as the fish would obviously feel the sinker and spit out the bait, but I gave it a try once and was pleasantly surprised. I now seldom use another rig in the surf! Although this rig may not be as sensitve in feeling soft "bites", if you rig it with a circle hook and wait for the fish to take the bait and move off strongly, you will be "VAS" every time!

The Limited Sliding Sinker Rig is an adaptation of the old sliding sinker rig where the sinker line connected to a swivel moves freely on the mainline and the hook line is connected to the mainline by means of another swivel. The only difference is that the movement of the sinker on the mainline is restricted or stopped by another swivel or knot some way up the mainline. The theory is that the fish picks up the bait, does not feel any resistance from the sinker and moves off only for the hook to be slammed home when the sinker reaches the "stop" (similar to "bolt" rigs used in specimen carp fishing). This rig has been used successfully on many species in the surf, especially Steenbras.

If you use these rigs, it is a good idea to use a bead to protect the knots where you have a moving swivel (or ring) which will otherwise come into contact with a knot.

With these two rigs, you can target and cover all species. The only time I use a rig other than the Pulley rig is for Shad and Bronze Bream, although I have caught Shad on a circle hook with the Pulley rig ... For Shad, its usually drift sardine and for Bronze Bream, a two hook Paternoster with pink prawn on 1/0 circles.