Pulley Rig

[Longname]

Hi

I've found so many tips and help on this forum, that I've decided to see if I can assist in return.

While using the pulley rig (http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=6614&forum_id=57) as seen on this forum, it pained me that my line through the swivel (attached to the leader), keeps on making a serious kink, because of the forces applied while casting.

I've seen some great 'goodies' in the UK that addresses this, but for the sake of saving in this current economy, I came up with the idea of replacing the single swivel with a three-way swivel. The results speak for themselves.

In the attached picture, you'll see that both swivels have a 80 Lb line (for illustration purposes) through, with a 6oz sinker (not in picture) hanging from it.  Both rigs are under tension as the rigs were photographed while hanging.

I've yet to test it, but with the bigger arc, maybe I'll get less severe kinks. One can maybe install an arched little 'pipe' through the bottom two eyes? I'll try it like this for now, and see how it goes.

Maybe not a new idea, maybe it may help....

 

[kaspaas]

It would apear that the terminal line of the trace on the left of the pic (with three-way swivel) only runs through one eye of the swivel. Why not through both bottom eyes? It will help keeping the arch of the line wider than if it only runs through one eye. Or am I seeing wrong??

 

[Mangi]

I think that is the general idea. Let the line run through both eyes of the three way. I like it. Gonna try it out.

Thanks OWFGOS!

 

[Longname]

kaspaas wrote:

It would apear that the terminal line of the trace on the left of the pic (with three-way swivel) only runs through one eye of the swivel. Why not through both bottom eyes? It will help keeping the arch of the line wider than if it only runs through one eye. Or am I seeing wrong??

Kaspaas, yes, it actually runs through both eyes. I think the flash on the fluoro carbon is the culprit.

You'll see in the picture that the arc is a lot better than with the single swivel, while both are under the same 6oz-induced tension.

 

[Longname]

Mangi wrote:

I think that is the general idea. Let the line run through both eyes of the three way. I like it. Gonna try it out.

Thanks OWFGOS!

You're welcome.

Actually quite cool to contribute, and getting nice response!

 

[Chris Shelton]

Good idea, i like it!

 

[Henties Haai]

looks very good, will be giving it a go!!

 

[Upcoming Star]

Slimgat

 

[roland]

will def try it this weekend. dude, dont hesitate to post more ideas

 

[TOE 007]

look i am first to moan about using 3 swivels , i feel its a bit 'heavy' although i have had very good catches with them pulley rigs , ok so obviously you use a bead to protect the sinker knot , i am just figuring that one will still part with another swivel , still a good idea!


tips and ideas seem to be very scarce on sealine these days , thanks man !

 

[Homie]

Great idea !!!

 

[Sailfish]

The three-way swivel works fine for the cast and keeps the thicker line more at a arch thow. But onse you put preasure on the swivel when unhooked from the sinker clip, the legs of the tree-way swivel bends and causes a wheek link. It wil help to thread a pease of elect. tubeing threw the two bottem eys of the tree-way swivel and then insert your line threw the sleave. Remeber that is your main swivel you fight your fish on. I only use a stopper swivel at the sinker end with a bead inbetween. At the hook side there is a beed and 2x fig. 8 knots with the hooksnout been of a thinner dia. line than the one the pully runs on. The beed stop the main swivel against the 2x fig 8 knots from sliding ontop of the hook. So 2x swivels and you set with a pully rig.Just my 2c.

 

[Chris Shelton]

Sailfish wrote:

The three-way swivel works fine for the cast and keeps the thicker line more at a arch thow. But onse you put preasure on the swivel when unhooked from the sinker clip, the legs of the tree-way swivel bends and causes a wheek link. It wil help to thread a pease of elect. tubeing threw the two bottem eys of the tree-way swivel and then insert your line threw the sleave. Remeber that is your main swivel you fight your fish on. I only use a stopper swivel at the sinker end with a bead inbetween. At the hook side there is a beed and 2x fig. 8 knots with the hooksnout been of a thinner dia. line than the one the pully runs on. The beed stop the main swivel against the 2x fig 8 knots from sliding ontop of the hook. So 2x swivels and you set with a pully rig.Just my 2c.

Another brilliant idea! Obviously line twist will not be a problem either, because everything will rotate on the sinker swivel. Nice one Hein!

 

[Upcoming Star]

don' t you have a pic of that setup please...

 

[Sailfish]

Thanks Chris. I personally don't trust the 3way swivel. As the points is not inline and have restrickted twist movemend when under strain. Now by inserting the thick line threw the 2 bottem eys, conecting them, you loos total rotation on both those eys. They can not rotate even when the line is under no strain. Only the top one has a perpose now. But this is only my opinion.

 

[Sailfish]

Upcoming Star wrote:

don' t you have a pic of that setup please...

The swivel closest to the hook is not nes. You can have two fig 8 knots here tying the thinner and thicker lines. A beed to stop the mainline swivel from sliding over the hook snout. I recomend you give the thinner line (Hook snout) 3 turns on the fig 8 instead of the usual 2 raps round the thicker line.

 

[Upcoming Star]

thanks for that fast response!

when would it be ideal/best to use pulley rig and when not to?
steenies are fussy feeders i think , i would think that they wouldnt take readily on a pulley rigged bait?
plz advise me if im wrong as i never used the pulley before

thanks

 

[Sailfish]

Gotaway uses the pully rig exclicive for both cob and Steenbras. He is having great secsess with Circles and a skelm hook sliding freely on the snout above the fix bottem hook. The main thing with the pully rig is that the fish has n limited distince to swim away with the bait and as soon as the sinker swivel hits the free swivel, the hook gets set by the sinker. So it gives the fish little time to spit the bait if it relizes there somthing fishy with the bait. It also dose the job of securing the hookup for you when you away from your rod and the fish takes off. Call it the lazy mans rig. But it sure dose the trick and you also have the sinker now far from the fishes boddy and not hampering the fish been spooked when the usal rigs have the sinker hitting the fish on the head or against the boddy. When the sinker is stuck it takes only a thew feet for ither the fish to break the thinner sinker line or the angler doing it. With the conventional sliding trace you can have the sinker stuck and the fish 100 meter from it on its way to some struckture and you playing yo-yo with the fish threw a fixed point now. The sinker swivel. Leaving you with little controle fighting the fishes direction taken. Hope it makes sence. If you do whant to use the conventional rig. You can put a bead ither side your sinker sliding swivel. The bottem bead wil proteck the knot and the top bead wil stop the sinker where your leader knot is fixed to your main line. Giveing the fish +/- 5meter of free run before the sinker wil lift from the sand. However if the fish like Steenbras sets off at speed and the swivel hits the stopper point 5meters away!!! You need good knots and thick line. If the sinker is stuck???? Something is gonne give at that distance and speed the fish is running. Line brake or hook wil pull or.......... You think about it.!!

 

[Longname]

Thanks to all who contributed. That's what I like. There is a lot of knowledge out there, and believe me, I'm taking notes. Keep it coming guys. ::respekt:

 

[Longname]

Now this is one nice pulley rig!