platie rig
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van_straaten
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Wow not one possitive.
I prefer fluorocarbon the whole trace is only 45cm long
The whole point of this rig is to keep to platie from diging under rocks and debris.
also to keep fillet/platie of the bottom away from crabs
but thanks for the input
Results to follow in 2 weeks
I prefer fluorocarbon the whole trace is only 45cm long
The whole point of this rig is to keep to platie from diging under rocks and debris.
also to keep fillet/platie of the bottom away from crabs
but thanks for the input
Results to follow in 2 weeks
Hey sorry man no negative from me whatsoever. We all have our preferred traces etc. Plattie will potentially try to dig in under somit but will eventually try to get to air... Palomar knot is also good but I do prefer the angle the rig makes with a snelled hook. Please let us know how you get on in 2 weeks.
van_straaten
Senior Member
No offence taken.
Will do a full report fishing a nice 15 to 22m deep hole in the vaal.
Will do a full report fishing a nice 15 to 22m deep hole in the vaal.
van_straaten
Senior Member
Thanks for the
advise
advise
van_straaten wrote:
From above seems like you want to rig the plattie live. Not wanting to get into legalities regarding this, here is the way I use to do it when I still used platties.
Hook the plattie through one thigh(Bo been). Now take a syringe draw some air into it and inject the air under the skin on the lower back.
The plattie will try to get under structure on the bottom but will keep popping up due to the air bubble.
As the other posts I also do not like fluorocarbon, expensive, hard and not needed for barbel. I use Maxima Ultra green. Abrasive resistance is the main reason for my choice.
I would also not use the cork. Unless it is fixed it may interfere with the kook set if it moves down to the hook, and not really needed. As long as there is some flow in the water, this will lift the bait of the ground slighty.(even in deep holes).
With such a big hole available, I would do my best to get a muddie and fish that on a breakaway sinker rig. My favorite bait for big cats and it is guaranteed to get you a decent fish.
As F1%hpa%te mentioned each person has his own rigs and tricks.
Hope this helps some and good luck, please post the pi's of the big one!
From above seems like you want to rig the plattie live. Not wanting to get into legalities regarding this, here is the way I use to do it when I still used platties.
Hook the plattie through one thigh(Bo been). Now take a syringe draw some air into it and inject the air under the skin on the lower back.
The plattie will try to get under structure on the bottom but will keep popping up due to the air bubble.
As the other posts I also do not like fluorocarbon, expensive, hard and not needed for barbel. I use Maxima Ultra green. Abrasive resistance is the main reason for my choice.
I would also not use the cork. Unless it is fixed it may interfere with the kook set if it moves down to the hook, and not really needed. As long as there is some flow in the water, this will lift the bait of the ground slighty.(even in deep holes).
With such a big hole available, I would do my best to get a muddie and fish that on a breakaway sinker rig. My favorite bait for big cats and it is guaranteed to get you a decent fish.
As F1%hpa%te mentioned each person has his own rigs and tricks.
Hope this helps some and good luck, please post the pi's of the big one!
van_straaten
Senior Member
The cork is fixed with a power swivel drawn into it.
always hook my platies in the back side wont be able to do the needle thing. But great idea.
For some weird reason the place I fish has not produced a single muddy in 3 years only Baber and carp non smaller than 1.5kg
Best bait there is definitely platies. Some days the carp (head/fillet/guts) come back untouched.
Day old chicks work there but only next to the cliffs.
always hook my platies in the back side wont be able to do the needle thing. But great idea.
For some weird reason the place I fish has not produced a single muddy in 3 years only Baber and carp non smaller than 1.5kg
Best bait there is definitely platies. Some days the carp (head/fillet/guts) come back untouched.
Day old chicks work there but only next to the cliffs.
I fished a section of the vaal for the past year and also do not get any muddies although they are there...
Anyway, I use a head of a 5kg carp with a section of body as bait. the rest I fillet and use it that way. BIG baits = BIG fish. Platties will get you big fish but you will have to fish through the smaller ones. That BIG hole shouts BIG BAITS!
I will admit that the BIG CAT has eluded me so far but I have caught 10kg cats on similar bait cut from a 3kg carps!!!
Anyway, I use a head of a 5kg carp with a section of body as bait. the rest I fillet and use it that way. BIG baits = BIG fish. Platties will get you big fish but you will have to fish through the smaller ones. That BIG hole shouts BIG BAITS!
I will admit that the BIG CAT has eluded me so far but I have caught 10kg cats on similar bait cut from a 3kg carps!!!
Yip, muddies are definately present but always a challenge to catch them in the river. We may need to get a muddie expert to give us a teotorial!
The other bait you can use(especially in such a large hole), would be a half an ox-heart with some "mala", chicken guts strapped on with cotton and a breakaway weight.
Only disadvantage is you need a small boat or canoe to drop the bait.
The one in the picture is less than a quarter heart but in the hole you are talking about I would go with at least a half, no problem.
The other bait you can use(especially in such a large hole), would be a half an ox-heart with some "mala", chicken guts strapped on with cotton and a breakaway weight.
Only disadvantage is you need a small boat or canoe to drop the bait.
The one in the picture is less than a quarter heart but in the hole you are talking about I would go with at least a half, no problem.
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The only thing I can come up with why you guys are struggling to catch Muddies at the Vaal must be the techniques and rigging methods. Reason why I'm saying this is I know off a very nice venue where they are murdering the Muddies and then I'm not even talking about the size they catch. I even asked a guy once to let one go because it would have been a shame to kill it for bait.
Check out the venue's gallery http://www.vosritefishing.co.za/gallery.html and judge for yourselves.
Check out the venue's gallery http://www.vosritefishing.co.za/gallery.html and judge for yourselves.
Check out the venue's gallery http://www.vosritefishing.co.za/gallery.html and judge for yourselves.[/quote]
WOW!! some bus muddies there! This is very close to the area I fished a few weeks ago. Only differance I see is that it is on the Free State side of the river(shallower and with the sand beaches!
Will have to go and check this one out!
Luckily I fly back to warm SA on Saterday and will then definatelyu make a plan to take my son there, maybe next weekend.
Thanks for the link.
WOW!! some bus muddies there! This is very close to the area I fished a few weeks ago. Only differance I see is that it is on the Free State side of the river(shallower and with the sand beaches!
Will have to go and check this one out!
Luckily I fly back to warm SA on Saterday and will then definatelyu make a plan to take my son there, maybe next weekend.
Thanks for the link.
steelpulse007
Sealiner
Muddies can be such a pest at some venues on the Vaal River at times, taking the carp baits that I put out time-after-time, and then there are times you see very little of them. I've found them to be quite a nuisance from around September till around Dec below Barrage up until Parys...during that time they seem to go nuts for earthworm on the hook, or earthworm tipped with a garlic floatie....maybe try that and see?
van_straaten
Senior Member
steelpulse007
Will definitely give that a try
Will definitely give that a try
Thanks for the feedback for the Muddies. We used white degie with a Kariba worm but ended up catching plenty small yellows and 4 "klip babars"(the ones with the brown spots) which was a first for me in the river.
Garlic floatie with the worm I will definitely try.
I think the correct rig is also very important. I have found some info regarding a float method that may be useful. I will post separately to get some info from other members.
Garlic floatie with the worm I will definitely try.
I think the correct rig is also very important. I have found some info regarding a float method that may be useful. I will post separately to get some info from other members.