One of the biggest Bass officially caught in SA!

gt40

Senior Member
Firtsly there is 3 kinds of bass.
1-is large mouth.
2- small mouth.
3- spotted bass.

Nothern/florida/f1 is strains of bass.

If you checked the date of when that bass was caught,it is october. This is in spawning season.

Females grows big and not males.
 

popkop

New member
Good we can share our opinions , but i still stick to my points i mentioned earlier:)

Not all bass spawn at the same time of the year depends on the weather/water /climate and region they are from.

When i fish for bass i dont fish much in months of May- June - July , for eastern cape its very poor season. But not impossible.

Back to the fact of this thread the bass caught is a Florida Strain bass easy to identity it by where it was caught the dark color on its back and the size of the fish plus its large belly.
 

gt40

Senior Member
Yes fish in sa spawn between aug and jan. Yes not all spawn on the same but that fish carry eggs.

You making facts which people like olyff study and doing test to see, but obviously you have a gift to see strain.

Bud rather keep quiet because you have no clue. Mixing strain as bass types. Hahaha.

The website you use is a very old out of date site. Do yourself a favour, visit bassresource.com
 

popkop

New member
my point was just to say its a florida strain bass thats all.

Maybe some poor kid sees this foto and thinks his common large mouth bass of 3 kg is small , which it isnt so i had to mention that its not the common large mouth bass .

Its still a huge Florida bass but its not uncommon for those big sizes.

If you read all the people's comments i would imagine they all mostly believe its a common large mouth ...
 

popkop

New member
i used that old site to show you that Florida bass were released long ago into KZN area..

And the foto shows again the big belly , if u see all pics of florida bass have this characteristic belly .. i doubt all 200 fotos i saw are all pregnant fish .... its just the way they look.
 

gt40

Senior Member
Why then writing the rubish you did and not just say its a florida??

Just by the way you get northen/f1 bass also at 6 kg. Its about climate, food source and manage waters.

Just some info you proberly dont know, is blue gills/sunfish is direct family to bass.
 

gt40

Senior Member
Stop rather because you sound like you need to rather keep quiet and go read up from the americans who is origan of bass in s.a
 

popkop

New member
thanks for the info , i never checked if krupers were family or not of bass but i see the resemblance.

Anyway i give up sending messages back and forth you are the winner.

Or the lady that caught that big florida strain bass in the winner :)

bye Sir
 

gt40

Senior Member
Here is info you can use not the bull sh1t you talking.





popkop wrote:
thanks for the info , i never checked if krupers were family or not of bass but i see the resemblance.

Anyway i give up sending messages back and forth you are the winner.

Or the lady that caught that big florida strain bass in the winner :)

bye Sir
 

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Bycatch

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Oh jislaaik, herewith some education my boet:

It would be logical, but wrong, to assume that the ancestors of Southern Africa’s bass populations came from the United States. In fact, an ancient copy of the Cape Piscatorial Association’s magazine “Piscator” reveals that South Africa’s first largemouths were actually bred in Arnhem, Holland, in the summer of 1927.

From there 49 fingerlings in six cans were shipped to South Africa via England in the care of the late Mr P J Neville, Honorary Secretary of the Rand Piscatorial Association which had ordered the fish. Using a primitive arrangement of a foot pump, a football bladder and rubber tubing to aerate the fish every five hours, Mr Neville took such good care of his charges that only four were lost on the voyage. Modern bass anglers owe him a debt of gratitude.

On 20 February 1928, Mr Neville handed the 45 survivors over to Mr F G Chaplin at the famous Jonkershoek Hatcheries in Stellenbosch and, in October the following year, black bass bred for the first time in Southern Africa. A few other shipments followed in later years, with minimal success, and it is safe to say that the majority of largemouth bass now in Southern Africa can trace their ancestory back to the original shipment.

Smallmouth’s arrived in the country almost 10 years later when 29 survivors, out of a shipment of 55 ordered jointly by the Cape and Natal, were handed over to Jonkershoek on 22 October 1937. Soon afterwards Natal claimed its share of the shipment and all were lost during transportation.

At the end of 1937, the fate of the smallmouth bass in South Africa rested with 12 surviving fingerlings at Jonkershoek. That they reached maturity and bred, thus giving rise to the present populations throughout the country, has been a source of regret to many conservationists ever since, thanks to the smallmouth’s decimation of indigenous river fish.

Spotted bass arrived two years later and although they were successfully bred by both the Cape and Natal, they have never played a major role in South Africa.

The first Florida’s in Southern Africa were imported into Zimbabwe in the late seventies, and were bred at the Matopos hatcheries outside Bulawayo from where fingerlings were stocked into several public dams in the early eighties. In South Africa, Florida’s were imported by the Natal Parks Board in 1979 and bred well at the Umgeni hatcheries. Six thousand fingerlings were stocked into Goedertrouw Dam in 1981 and the rest is as they say history even though Cyclone Damoina had a devastating effect on Goedies in early 1984!

Now stop talking so much kak, more to follow.
 

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Bycatch

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And another:
 

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gt40

Senior Member
Yes our stock origon is from holland but it was stock in hollond from usa.

So indirectly it still a usa fish.
 

popkop

New member
BYCatch , do you think after many years they will inter breed too much and will be hard to tell the difference ?

Lets say spotted with small mouth and northerns with florida etc ? Can become a mess u think ?

Can a nothern and a small mouth breed together ?
 

Bycatch

Senior Member
A smallie MAY interbreed with a spottie, it can happen.
LM whether Northern or Florida hybradise each other no problem. The only sure fire way to positively ID a florida is to kill it and that we don't advocate.
Luckily we have science and the best test is DNA sampling.
 

popkop

New member
thanks,

So if you go to the first post and foto of that fish that was caught , you agree its a large mouth Florida yes ?

belly size
dark color on back
caught in KZN
 
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