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SimonSays

New member
Transkeikat wrote:
Wow... lots of intollerance and name calling... very hatefull speech, especially from "Simonsays" who would like to see me kill myself rather than let me give my opinion about a guy that caught a really nice fish on a fishing forum? Maybe he sold some fish to his buddies, or other okes in the campsite... surely you couldn't expect him to eat all that by himself? Regardless enough wining and handbags.... I'm over it!

Nee boetman, jy moet focus, I didn't say kill yourself - I said shoot yourself by accident... you know, wiff your speargun, after you shoot the springbok and cut it's head off...

BTW - as jy nie n commercial is nie mag jy nie vis verkoop nie... jy kan dit vir jou ma en pa uitdeel en vir die bure ook, maar jy mag dit nie verkoop nie...
 

IWyk

Sealiner
Seems like you two spearos need to calm down and get with the law and stop slinging mud.

You have by your own admission speared TWO salmon/kob and sold them WHICH IS ILLEGAL AND THEN SELLING YOUR CATCH WHICH IS AGAIN ILLEGAL!!

Get with the law buy the relevant license/permit and understand what you may and may not do.

If you posted your catch(or spearfishing abilities) and your statements where all within the law you would not have offended and upset legal recreational fisherman on this site who actually respect the law and the natural resources we have.

Come on gents you are in the wrong here so rather accept this and correct your actions in future instead of being offensive to long standing members on this forum.

Below is a link to the current legislation regarding recreational fishing and spearfishing.

You may not spear rock lobster:

REGULATIONS FOR FISHING OF WEST COAST ROCK LOBSTER (Jasus lalandii)

(11) Rock lobster for own use may only be caught by: • using a ring- or scoop-net from a boat not licensed to catch rock lobster commercially; • using a ring- or scoop-net from the sea-shore; • diving from the sea-shore without the use of artificial breathing apparatus, other than a snorkel; • using a baited line and scoopnet.
REGULATIONS FOR FISHING OF EAST COAST ROCK LOBSTER (Panulirus homarus)

(b) engage in fishing or collecting east coast rock lobster with a trap other than: (i) a flat circular trap with no sides and of which the diameter does not exceed 30cm; or (ii) by means of baited hooks.
Below is a link with the current law regarding all fishing and spearfishing activities.

http://www.daff.gov.za/daffweb3/Branches/Fisheries-Management/Marine-Resource-Management/Recreational-Fishing
 
 

IWyk

Sealiner
REGULATIONS FOR FISHING OF EAST COAST ROCK LOBSTER (Panulirus homarus)Recreational Permits for collecting East Coast Rock Lobster is obtainable from the Post Office, Only 8 East Coast Rock Lobster can be collected by a permit holder per day, the permit can be used once in any given day. No person is allowed to collect East Coast Rock Lobster during closed season (1st day of November to last day of February), no person is allowed to collect East Coast Rock Lobster which is in berry. No person shall engage in fishing, collect, disturb or be in possession of any east coast rock lobster of which: (1) the carapace is less than 65 mm in length measured along its mid-dorsal line from the centre of the edge which connects thetwo enlarged anterior spines to the middle of its posterior edge, or (2) the second segment of the tail, counted from the junction of the tail with the body, is less than 22 mm measured along the mid-dorsal line between its front and rear edges, in the absence of the carapace; (1) No person shall: (a) engage in fishing, collecting or disturbing any east coast rock lobster with the use of a vessel; or (b) engage in fishing or collecting east coast rock lobster with a trap other than: (i) a flat circular trap with no sides and of which the diameter does not exceed 30cm; or (ii) by means of baited hooks. (2) The holder of a recreational east coast rock lobster permit shall not: (a) engage in fishing, collecting, keeping or controlling of not more than eight east coast rock lobster per day; or (b) be in possession of more than eight east coast rock lobster at any one time


Just before you reply you shot an East coast rock lobster.
 
Sorry Matthiam to drag this thread to the top for the new year, this post is NOT directed at you but a broadcast to anyone who is interested and listening. Don't take any offense ;)

I suggest mense read the first page of this thread and read what was said regarding fish stocks in this country and dusky cob in particular and the newly discovered facts regarding breeding capabilities of the old cows.

I then suggest you grab a copy of or at least read the new edition of African Angler's "Ski-Boat" magazine and read the article entitled "Dire Straights". I feel completely vindicated and think that we need to realize that we need to get over the "whinger" label and start to actively create a new culture of looking after these fish so we can not loose out in the future as we are loosing out now. This starts with discussing it with fellow anglers, as I do here, and bringing them up to speed with facts and the unfortunate truth of where we currently stand.

http://www.africanangler.com/sb_article.asp?id=985

Some things that struck me from the research is that we have estimated at less than 1000 of the big breeding dusky cows left, that shocked me, I had no idea it was so bad when I replied to this thread earlier in the year. Another is that the survival rates of the larvae to actual fish is so low that an 8kg young adult may have something like only 4 fish survive to adulthood from her first spawn, the difference between here and a large eg. 50kg cow is exponential with estimated 15000 fish surviving to adulthood from a large cow's spawning event. I know other research I have read found that older cobs would spawn a few times a year while the younger fish only once so that makes the numbers even worse with a cow cob making something like 10000 times more baby fish in a year than a good size 8kg female. And we have less than a thousand of those bitches left..shocking. It is just a numbers game and we are currently loosing big time, slot limits are the future. We can win so easily if we just play the game right.

We need to start implementing this ourselves, we cannot wait for the state for do it for us, let everything go below a certain size and let everything go back above a certain size. Big old cows we should not even remove from the water for pictures, like they have legislated for tarpon in the florida. We need to do this not because it is the legal thing to do, but the right and ethical thing to do. We need to educate ourselves regarding our target species, what is their stock condition, ecology, breeding nuances etc.. so we can all have better fishing for the future. No brainer as far as I'm concerned.
 

jensent

New member
Dr halibut hoffman wrote:
We need to start implementing this ourselves, we cannot wait for the state for do it for us, let everything go below a certain size and let everything go back above a certain size. Big old cows we should not even remove from the water for pictures, like they have legislated for tarpon in the florida. We need to do this not because it is the legal thing to do, but the right and ethical thing to do. We need to educate ourselves regarding our target species, what is their stock condition, ecology, breeding nuances etc.. so we can all have better fishing for the future. No brainer as far as I'm concerned.
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100% Could not agree more!!!
 
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