Mono mainline with 50lb Braid leader...

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longtimenofishing

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Hi Guys,

I am sitting wonder what would happen and if it could work and especially what would change in the manner of fishing if you were to use a Mono mainline with a Braid leader...(about 50m)

Could somebody please help and maybe explain the impact it would have on my way of fishing?

The reason for asking is the fact that I don't have the money to purchase braid as it is VERY expensive and to fill big pitt reels it could turn out to be around R4000(my wife will kill me:)

Last question... how good is Berkley Big Game mono?
 
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Jean77

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You wont make a mistake with big game!ive been using the same line for almost a year now and its still good.abrasion resistance is better than any other mono ive used.
 
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Simen

Sealiner
longtimenofishing wrote:
Hi Guys,

I am sitting wonder what would happen and if it could work and especially what would change in the manner of fishing if you were to use a Mono mainline with a Braid leader...(about 50m)

Could somebody please help and maybe explain the impact it would have on my way of fishing?

The reason for asking is the fact that I don't have the money to purchase braid as it is VERY expensive and to fill big pitt reels it could turn out to be around R4000(my wife will kill me:)

Last question... how good is Berkley Big Game mono?
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If I may add my 2c

Any way you look at it you will have to buy at least one roll of braid. (regardless the make)

On a roll is either 300yrds or 300m.

To just add 50m leader might be costly as I am sure you cast further than that. Should you get stuck and break off the braid is going to be stronger than your mainline and you will loose the whole 50m.

If you just divide the reel into half and add it onto your reels for the top part, use mono for backing then you have at least 150m / yrds as a strong mainline which you should not lose when breaking off.

You dont have to fill any reel from top to bottom with braid, it gets to expensive.

I am not sure if you guys fish with 3 reels in freshwater, if you do then 300 /3 might just be to little for 3 reels.

Dont waste money and fill all the reels, rather spend money and add just enough for your cast and an extra of 30 to 50m.

If you drop your lines with a boat same principle applies.

 
 
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longtimenofishing

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Hi guys, thanx for the replies sofar...

I have no idea what braid it is, the guy at the shop told me about this great 51lb braid for R1.20/m...

Simen, we do specimen fishing and take lines in and also land the fish from the boat, so there is no casting involved... I want to know what impact it will make on my technique on playing the carp clos range to land it! Cause I don't want to lose the fish and as I'm used to mono with stretch I am lost with the braid...
 
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Simen

Sealiner
longtimenofishing wrote:
Hi guys, thanx for the replies sofar...

I have no idea what braid it is, the guy at the shop told me about this great 51lb braid for R1.20/m...

Simen, we do specimen fishing and take lines in and also land the fish from the boat, so there is no casting involved... I want to know what impact it will make on my technique on playing the carp clos range to land it! Cause I don't want to lose the fish and as I'm used to mono with stretch I am lost with the braid...
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The greatest advantage of braid is its directness, meaning that it detects any movement on the bait instantly, so when a fish sneezes next to your bait you know it,

It is much stronger diameter wise than mono, so thinner line with greater poundage.

Also it had no stretch in it.

With all these factors combined you will have to alter your fishing technique somewhat

You dont strike a fish any more,--  no stretch -- you simply lift the rod to set the hook.

Bites are indicated more clearly.

You are not scared to tackle large fish with a thin dia line.

More line (thinner dia) on the same spool.

You have to fish with a much looser drag (again no stretch).

No more in line snaps -- just lose end tackle and not mainline.

Further casts -- thinner dia and lighter.

Braid is expensive yes, but will literally last 10x longer than mono.

Simple -- if you get used to braid you will never touch mono again.

Just a few of the advantages, in my opinion the only drawback on braid is the price.

Also be careful there are a lot of real bad brands in the shops, buy the correct one first time

See:  






http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=50871&forum_id=77

I know it is written for saltwater angling but many of the same principals apply.
 
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Kerneels

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gaan van begin tot einde Berkley big game.

n vriend van my vang met braid maar sy loeder van so 30m is mono, vir daai bietjie stretch. so as ek jy is gaan van begin tot einde berkley big game, 15lb dan weet jy jy is reg. want as jy net 50m braid op het en hengel 400m is die voordele van braid ook nie meer daar nie, en dan hier reg voor laaste 20m is jy reguit op die vis met braid en jou lyn kan nie rek nie so dit gaan breek of vis gaan hoek uit skeer of oop buig...

bly by mono, baie goedkoper.
 
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HennieB

Sealiner
Ek sal nie braid gebruik as 'n leader nie, mono in my opinie maak 'n baie beter leader omdat dit baie beter abrasion resistant is dit gee jou daai bietjie stretch en grasie om 'n "fout" te maak.
 
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longtimenofishing

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More manne...

Julle sien met berkley big game, die lyn is vrek dik... Nou ek fish met Shimano GTE 10,000 en die lyn kapasiteit op 0.25 is so 650m... Berkley big game se 10lb lyn is 0.30... so ek gaan net 500m opkry!

Ek fish huidiglik met Awa-Shima se Specimen hypersoft, 18lb op 0.25! Die lyn is amazing en baie sterk, ek is net bang dat dit te veel stretch met 'n sessie en die volgende sessie nie meer reg is nie!

Ons fish meestal by doorndraai en met ons vorige trip het ons 9vis gevang avg. 11.9kg. Ons het 8 van hulle van die bootjie af geland so ek reken my lyne het bietjie gerek! Plus ons hengel daar op tussen 350m en 500m. Dis hoekom ek vra oor die Braid leader en veral so LANG braid leader is dat ek dan die vis op die braid speel die laaste 50m en nie op my lyn wat rek nie! Sodat ek ook nogsteeds die dun lun kan opsit vir capacity met die lang leader vir strength...
 
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HennieB

Sealiner
Jy moet onthou braid is nie rond soos mono nie so jy gaan heel moontlik minder braid op jou Shimano kry as mono, dit was so gewees met my Shimano 10000's.
 
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longtimenofishing

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Dit verstaan ek, maar soos ek vroeer gese het, ek is te arm vir braid! as ek brai op my shimanos sit sal ek sekerlik 800m opkry teen R1.20 per meter, 2 katrolle, en dan nog 2 docks trophy 12000... om dit vol te maak gaan jy moet hare op jou tande he! Dis hoekom ek dink net aan 'n leader...
 
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Nikao

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 Hi Longtimenofish

Just My 2c..

As mentioned already braid has no Stretch and although this is good for your bite detection you can also loose more fish as you put to much pressure on the fish..so I still use a Mono Leader on all my Braided Reels to act as a shock absorber, so when fighting the fish  there is still a bit a stretch in the line. I would say that if you are doing it on a budget then do 1 reel a season? that way your get the benefit of using the braid and it is not R4000 straight out of your Pocket (Wife's tend to notice when R4k is missing from your Bank account). As for the Berkly big game is is great line and I use it on most of my reels..
 
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Jean77

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As ek jy is kry vir jou spiderwire,dis redelik dun,volgens die mense is dt goeie kwaliteit en teen R350 vir 600m gan dit jou nie n arm en n been kos nie.maar as dit nie vir jou werk nie sal ek eerder dan n leker sterk mono leader opsit saam jou mono mainline,die ding met braid as n leader gaan jy hookpulls kry,as j rondom klippe en bome hengel en die vis kom te naby dat die lyn skuur gaan dit baie maklik breek,en met gras en riete sny dit weer in die riete of gras in en jy gaan jou vis verloor.onthou net voor jy besluit wat jy gaan doen dat ons as spesie hengelaars altyd die vis se veiligheid moet eerste plaas,en ons gerei so moet aanpas om dit te kan regkry.
 
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HennieB

Sealiner
longtimenofishing wrote:
Dit verstaan ek, maar soos ek vroeer gese het, ek is te arm vir braid! as ek brai op my shimanos sit sal ek sekerlik 800m opkry teen R1.20 per meter, 2 katrolle, en dan nog 2 docks trophy 12000... om dit vol te maak gaan jy moet hare op jou tande he! Dis hoekom ek dink net aan 'n leader...
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Spaar eerder jou geld en koop Shimano LC's of Daiwa Advanced, jy gaan spyt wees oor die Docks.
 
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Genhiphop

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HennieB wrote:
Docks is scrap, ek het al van dit gehad. Glo my jy gaan spyt wees.
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ek hoor ook net slegte goed van die docks reels....... weet nie hoe waar dit is nie maar as 5 uit ses manne dieselde ding se dan bly ek eerder weg daarvan, ek het mitchell avo's en hulle het my nog nie n dag se K@k gegee nie..... eerlik waar al katrol wat ek anders sou koop is die DAIWA emcasts of as ons dit in SA gekry het die okuma Bigpits wat beatiful is.....

dis n jammerte ons kry nie AL okuma se produkte hier nie..... hulle maak van die beste goed in die wereld.  
 
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HennieB

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Okuma is net so klomp kak glo my. Ek is'n persoon wat pynlik is as dit kom by hoe ek na my goed kyk, maak nie saak wat dit is nie, kar, cd's, laptop, visvang gereedskap ens. Ek het al 2 stelle Okuma baitrunners gehad en hulle het gegroet. As ek die geld gehad het sou ek vir my van die nuwe LC's koop maar ek is nie eendag spyt oor my Emcasts nie.
 
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Genhiphop

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Eerlik waar die okumas wat ons in SA kry is *** ja maar die goed wat oorsee beskikbaar is is in n ander klas en sal enigedag by shimano of daiwa kan hou.....
 
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