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Ray11

Sealiner
I recently read a thread here that spoke about the benefits of mags in reels as well as its purpose.

I recently ordered some goodies from pmr u.k (pimp my reel).
Jamie is the engineer there and simply gave me amazing service and a product that is made to perfection.
On the question of mags. There have been many opinions on its effectiveness in the current sa market and how it translates to todays fishing. I had a chat with a few members about it and it seems that our market is evolving to newer horizons. If anything, I suppose its a question of who needs it and why.

I think anyone wanting to cast far distances and have control of a fast reel will only have joy out of mags. Be it static or adjustable mags.

Adjustable mags offer a range of options alternating control that varies. Whether in a strong wind where you need more mag strenghth or a windless day where you can use less mag.

I think many people shy away from new toys but I certainly can see all reels having mags in them oneday.

Perhaps we can use this thread as a discussion point to the pros and perceived cons for people that need controllable reels and improve their casting distance. old school and new.
 
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Pylstert

Sealiner
Ray11 wrote:
I recently read a thread here that spoke about the benefits of mags in reels as well as its purpose.

I recently ordered some goodies from pmr u.k (pimp my reel).
Jamie is the engineer there and simply gave me amazing service and a product that is made to perfection.
On the question of mags. There have been many opinions on its effectiveness in the current sa market and how it translates to todays fishing. I had a chat with a few members about it and it seems that our market is evolving to newer horizons. If anything, I suppose its a question of who needs it and why.

I think anyone wanting to cast far distances and have control of a fast reel will only have joy out of mags. Be it static or adjustable mags.

Adjustable mags offer a range of options alternating control that varies. Whether in a strong wind where you need more mag strenghth or a windless day where you can use less mag.

I think many people shy away from new toys but I certainly can see all reels having mags in them oneday.

Perhaps we can use this thread as a discussion point to the pros and perceived cons for people that need controllable reels and improve their casting distance. old school and new.
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Mags are as old as the hills, it's just that we fish with boat size reels and manufacturers don't see the need of fitting them. Years ago Daiwa, Shimano and Penn had awesome magged reels available in the size class of our typical beach reel but they were dropped from production. Shimano seems to be dropping cast controls altogether, they got rid of the Trini DC and the Trini A also lost its centrifugal brakes, so the reverse seems to be happening, less cast control.  Some manufacturers like Avet, however, do have magged options for most of their reels.
 
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Ray11

Sealiner
Very interesting.

What I do however find when chatting to most anglers is overwinds being an issue. Most people get them no matter how experienced though. Cast control systems eliminate this. So I suppose it could be a question of Shimano and daiwas target market in s.a.

Personally casting assistance can only be a benefit. Theres no drawbacks on it. Its strange in that sense that some manufacturers then steer away from cast control hey.
 
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Mahi mahi

Sealiner
I've been casting multipliers for many years, I would not say that I get great distance but i can usually get to where the fish are with the occasional overwind, I upgraded to a Trinni 16a and a 20a last year and from the start i cursed both reels with overwinds second to none..... After speaking to a few people i opted for the static magging, they were initially tagged by someone in Cape town and I still battled with the reel and thought this might be me not been able to cast as well as i though. After speaking to a few other people i sent the reels to Wilhelm and he tagged both of them, and I am now over the moon, I've been using the 16a for spinning for Yellowtail on my 110H and the 20a on my 400/2 and they now both cast like a dream and I'm also getting better distance with almost no overwinds.

I would say go for the magging, just make sure you get the right person to do the fitting!!
 
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Ray11

Sealiner
And that's my thoughts exactly. for those considering and not knowing the pros and cons. I have been magged for years now and wont go back. But yes,there are many not sure about its application and benefits. mags and adjustable mags are amazing kit for your reels.
 
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Ray11

Sealiner
HehehE.

Just to confirm though.
There are many people. Experienced and inexperienced that struggle with different conditions winds etc. Cast assist does help from a professional view point as well as amiture. My purpose of this thread is to create familiarity for those considering mags as options but not knowing its qualities. And input from guys to give personal experience on how it improved their fishing experience.
 
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willem wikkel spies

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Staff member
het ook n pel wat se katrolle gemag is.

deur die ene Mnr. Enigma!!!!!

Hyt net goeie dinge oor dit te se.

klink my dat dit net reg gedoen moet word.

dis makli om elke dag ver te kan cast want jy leer dit oor die jare!

dis iets anders om ver te cast as die viskoors loop!!!
selfs gesoute manne kry kraaineste
 
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Mahi mahi

Sealiner
I think the mags also boost your confidence a lot more too and you end up casting with a lot more confidence and getting better distance that way!
 
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flippy

Sealiner
with overruns i find a reel must have a certain ounce to it.. use a ounce less and its overruns

if that sweet spot means overloading a rod and user sticking to sinker that feels like rod is not being overloaded yet under ounce sufficient for reel then overruns will be more consistent

just have to find that sweet spot for a certain reel and stick to it or up the ounce to make more sure of no or very little overruns
 
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Ray11

Sealiner
Correct. I have experienced this in relation to the sinker as well. Its important hence why I personally enjoy a adjustable mag so I can vary the magnetic strenghth if needed. However Im sure its similar with static mags.
Either way just having a mag feels and looks awesome especially customizing them. like all sports equipment, customization is paramount to individual taste. It makes things feel special.
 
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flippy

Sealiner
agree.. you don't really need a reason to get more tackle hahaha..just buy it

man i can't wait for the big days to start..ended off with a optimistic bang and since winter set in been busy buying some tackle and plotting like crazy lol

c'mon :SSS
 
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Johan9255

Member
All jokes aside I'm also an angler that doesnt have a trained thumb and I spend 3/4 of my fishing trip casting scew,short and or crows nest. I had three magged reels before and they helped me tramendously with casting. I had a Penn squall 15, Penn mag 525 and an okuma cortez cz 12.great reels. I must ad it gives you great accuracy,consistency and zero crows nest but it also reduces your distance greatly. U have two options either go for distance or no crowsnest but you can't have both unfortunately that's why I'm looking forward to have another magged reel in future with fine tuning so that I can have the best of both worlds. Would like to try an Grandwave x30 sha with old salt mag in future. The only multiplier I owned that cast decent without mags was Penn fathom 15 with 4 brakes activated and 2 not. Could cast whole day without a crows nest but all the brakes limit distance
 
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fathom87

Member
I myself used Okuma mag reels until I could cast properly and switched to normal reels.Just one problem remained:getting distance.Solution : graphite rods and grandwave reels, then Penn Fathom reels +rod technology advancements coupled with the understanding to adapt your casting to a point where the sinker travels more or less with same velocity as the spool.In other words: using the sinker weight+rod action+loose reel in smooth casting motion with a long drop equals no need for magnets+the use of muscle.Just my 2cents worth.I only manage 100m+ without much effort and according to me all the distance I really need.Only target eds.((goodp_
 
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Mahi mahi

Sealiner
Johan9255 wrote:
All jokes aside I'm also an angler that doesnt have a trained thumb and I spend 3/4 of my fishing trip casting scew,short and or crows nest. I had three magged reels before and they helped me tramendously with casting. I had a Penn squall 15, Penn mag 525 and an okuma cortez cz 12.great reels. I must ad it gives you great accuracy,consistency and zero crows nest but it also reduces your distance greatly. U have two options either go for distance or no crowsnest but you can't have both unfortunately that's why I'm looking forward to have another magged reel in future with fine tuning so that I can have the best of both worlds. Would like to try an Grandwave x30 sha with old salt mag in future. The only multiplier I owned that cast decent without mags was Penn fathom 15 with 4 brakes activated and 2 not. Could cast whole day without a crows nest but all the brakes limit distance
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My experience have been different and i am now casting further with the merged trinnis than hat i was casting before with my unmanned toriums and Daiwas, so i now do have the best of both worlds
 
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Johan9255

Member
They are trinni's Mahi. Big step up from From toriums and grandwaves;)when I can afford a brand new one out the box I will get one and also mag mine.(Xmas wish) I hear they are super fast:? I still have my training weels on very inexperienced fisherman. Been fishing for 3 and a half years on and off every few months.Trying the grinder thing as i didnt have peace of mind really with multipliers. Its not a lekker feeling going fishing first time in few months being scared and stressed that u going to trow overwinds with both your reels in first 20 minutes being so stuffed that you have to go home.:shock:
 
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