:Boetaben wrote:Wow guys, one guy stand up for his believes and he gets hammerd, There is Only One God, its realy a pitty that you get people out ther that dont get the Fact that Jesus Died for all of us, and loves us all Uncondisionly. The only option is give you live to the Lord and have eternal life,  or dont and Die in hell. Sorry to sound so frank. And for the guys that believe in Darwin, come on man, go search abit deeper into his facts ,evolution is impossible!!!. Go search The truth project.
And to Mouldie, your a good man. and its because of people like this that our country is in the state its in. If you guys want facts talk to me. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD!!!!!!![]()
Waldok wrote:There's a difference between standing up for what you believe in and actively pursuing a fight.I for one respect Mouldie. Good on you to stand up for what you believe in.
A little bit of understanding and tolerance needs to be shown between all parties. If people started attacking the God is good thread and sprouting their opposing beliefs would you consider those people to be picking a fight or standing up for what they believe in? Likewise, constantly trolling a thread where some guys are discussing aliens, whatever the merits of their belief, by claiming that it's all impossible because your religion says so is not a constructive debate but merely imposing your belief on others.
Everybody here needs to just chill. Unless you have a problem whereby your computer automatically logs into threads that you disagree with and forces you to read them then there's no need to get worked up about them.
To paraphrase Steve Hughes: if they offend you, so what? Be offended. Nobody ever died from being offended.

kopstamp wrote:
my point of view: We all on sealine is of different race religion weight(hehe) so we all will never agree. BUt I can never see the reason why some must force their beliefs on another???
One of my best fishing buddies is from a complete different religion and race, but out of mutaul respect we dont discuss it, we talk fishing. SO lets all just talk fishing.
Had a look at the aliens thread in the beginning and was never offended the slightest, so the moral of the story is only YOU can make yourself feel offended....
Very true. That thread didn't interest me, so didn't pay attention to it.
Have to differ with one point. We all agree on one thing though - Trophy is still the best angler since slice bread
http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=41109&forum_id=38

..Hell..now that was/is a good thread , very similar to Mr Henning's Daiwa thread...really good stuff!!!..much humour and some quite good insight , mind you...well done Medic , Simen , etc etc for the platform...

Boetaben wroteBoetaben, what you need to understand is that this is YOUR belief. You are welcome to it, entitled to it and I am grateful that we live in a time and place that allows you the freedom to express it openly. Please respect everybody else's freedom not to subscribe to the same belief.What you dont get ,is the fact that there is only one truth, And mouldie stood up for what the truth is. Good on him. Like i said go out find the truth, and then you would also have reason to fight for it......... man oh man Living ,and knowing the truth will set you free[/b]

los dit nounet en gaan aan met visvang praat!!!!I might be wrong here, but the Aliens thread was never about beliefs. It was about facts. It did not ask if you believed they existed, but proof of or otherwise. So to bring different beliefs into it was disrespectful.
FYI ! Emperor has also convinced MOULDIE to stay! Medic









..Hey Mouldie..glad you back on line..I am mosing to Sisters on the weekend of the 3/4 March....Sooo..I need a water report closer to the time...please if you don't mind..Thanks...
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well done mouldie!! glad you back!
I know the easy thing is to not say anything and to stand up and say something does take courage.... but a usefull piece of advice Trophy gave me a while back is " you will never win a internet battle of words." Life is much simpler on sealine then.
This has nothing to do with your thread! In fact it has nothing to with you at all...I cant believe it has come to this.Im verry sad and disapointed.Its a simple thing,there are millions of people in the world everybody has an opinion obout something,I dont understand why it should offend anybody else.I started God is good with noble intensions for everyone to read and share experiances and views.God doesnt need a advocate he can fight his own battles. I believe many things get said about God and He sits in heaven having a good laugh at us because he has a sence of humor.
I am saying this openly and I dont care if I get flack for it.Jesus never judged anybody or condemed anybody,he never returned insults or gave insults,he was mocked,beaten,and murdered,but with his last words he said father forgive them. What has ever been done to anybody or any of you that closely resembles that,and Im talking to the Christians now.Why do we have to interfere in other peoples affairs in the name of "religion".In stead of giving Glory to God there are 20 000 something people on this site who thinks Christians are judgemental,pety,insensitive to others believes etc etc,and instead of being drawn to God they have been pushed further away.As the medic said everybody left our tread alone,why go and interfere in theirs.A few of you actually lost your testimony here on site,because of something so stupid as not agreeing with somebody else.
If I want to tell people about Jesus and they dont want to here about it I m not going to force it down,If someone says something ofensive to me even directly in my face then so be it I believe what I believe and nothing can change that,why get into a argument and behave like everything a Christian is suposed to not be.I look at many threads daily If I dont like it I skip it and dont go back there again,simple as that.There are more damadge being done to Christianity by Christians than non believers.
Not one of us has the right to talk about hell either and to deside who is going there and who isnt.Jesus himself never told anybody "believe in me or go to hell" who are you to do that.It is written work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, dont worry about the next person,the way you live as a Christian(Christ in you and through you) is supposed to draw people to Christ,It is also written "If God's name is lifted He will draw all me unto him" he will do it not us.Actions speak louder than words, If our lives doesnt reflect Christ than we have failed as Christians.No one will ever win an argument about religion or politicts,you only turn good friends into enemy's.I believe that there is so much damage done to God and Christianity that there is further no more pupose left for my thread.The purpose was to glorify God and it is no longer doing that,so I can ask that it rather be removed.Even Paul had to stand up and openly rebuke Peter when he was not acting in a manner worthy of Christ,so take this as a rebuke from a brother.By getting offended we only Isolate our selves because the rest og the world cary's on as normal whilst we are sulking.You want your believes to be respected,and get ofended when it doesnt,but what you are doing is exactly the same.
I love God as much as anybody on this site or anywhere in the world,but I will not win a battle just to go and lose the war.I am pesonally not going to add anything more to this thread or my origional one,as I feel that all the good has been erased.I apologise personaly to any body who has been offended by a brother,as I said before God is love their is only good in him and we are supposed to reflect that.Be careful what ever is in your heart comes out in your words and actions.And importantly God is watching.
If anybody is offended by what I said than you should take a serious look at yourself in the Spiritual mirror.

I cant believe it has come to this.Im verry sad and disapointed.Its a simple thing,there are millions of people in the world everybody has an opinion obout something,I dont understand why it should offend anybody else.I started God is good with noble intensions for everyone to read and share experiances and views.God doesnt need a advocate he can fight his own battles. I believe many things get said about God and He sits in heaven having a good laugh at us because he has a sence of humor.
I am saying this openly and I dont care if I get flack for it.Jesus never judged anybody or condemed anybody,he never returned insults or gave insults,he was mocked,beaten,and murdered,but with his last words he said father forgive them. What has ever been done to anybody or any of you that closely resembles that,and Im talking to the Christians now.Why do we have to interfere in other peoples affairs in the name of "religion".In stead of giving Glory to God there are 20 000 something people on this site who thinks Christians are judgemental,pety,insensitive to others believes etc etc,and instead of being drawn to God they have been pushed further away.As the medic said everybody left our tread alone,why go and interfere in theirs.A few of you actually lost your testimony here on site,because of something so stupid as not agreeing with somebody else.
If I want to tell people about Jesus and they dont want to here about it I m not going to force it down,If someone says something ofensive to me even directly in my face then so be it I believe what I believe and nothing can change that,why get into a argument and behave like everything a Christian is suposed to not be.I look at many threads daily If I dont like it I skip it and dont go back there again,simple as that.There are more damadge being done to Christianity by Christians than non believers.
Not one of us has the right to talk about hell either and to deside who is going there and who isnt.Jesus himself never told anybody "believe in me or go to hell" who are you to do that.It is written work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, dont worry about the next person,the way you live as a Christian(Christ in you and through you) is supposed to draw people to Christ,It is also written "If God's name is lifted He will draw all me unto him" he will do it not us.Actions speak louder than words, If our lives doesnt reflect Christ than we have failed as Christians.No one will ever win an argument about religion or politicts,you only turn good friends into enemy's.I believe that there is so much damage done to God and Christianity that there is further no more pupose left for my thread.The purpose was to glorify God and it is no longer doing that,so I can ask that it rather be removed.Even Paul had to stand up and openly rebuke Peter when he was not acting in a manner worthy of Christ,so take this as a rebuke from a brother.By getting offended we only Isolate our selves because the rest og the world cary's on as normal whilst we are sulking.You want your believes to be respected,and get ofended when it doesnt,but what you are doing is exactly the same.
I love God as much as anybody on this site or anywhere in the world,but I will not win a battle just to go and lose the war.I am pesonally not going to add anything more to this thread or my origional one,as I feel that all the good has been erased.I apologise personaly to any body who has been offended by a brother,as I said before God is love their is only good in him and we are supposed to reflect that.Be careful what ever is in your heart comes out in your words and actions.And importantly God is watching.
If anybody is offended by what I said than you should take a serious look at yourself in the Spiritual mirror.
ja nee wraggies soos 'n grammafoon wat vas haak.....