leader

steven p

New member
hi guys could sum1 help me make the right choice according using a leader wen targeting kob & elf as i`ve never used a leader and where do i get a good leader an shud braid be used wen targeting these species>
 

Francois13

Senior Member
hi steven,

i only use maxima as leader, some people might differ, but i think it is best. it depends on the size kob you want to target. with big tackle you can go up to 1mm leader.

when targeting shad, use leader on your reel, but dont forget your piece of wire.

any decent tackle shop will assist you with the right materials for the right application.
 

Mangi

Sealiner
Maxima, Kingfisher or T-Line Leader Line.

0.60 - 1.0mm leader.

All depends on the area you are fishing and your casting weight. For sandy beaches I would use a 0.60 - 0.80mm leader with a 5oz, 6oz, 7oz sinker.

I would use 0.90mm - 1.0mm leaders for rocky bottoms and heavier leads.

Not really necessary for braid when targeting these species.
 

Mr J

Senior Member
steven p wrote:
hi guys could sum1 help me make the right choice according using a leader wen targeting kob & elf as i`ve never used a leader and where do i get a good leader an shud braid be used wen targeting these species>

I'd say it depends whether you are going to fish R&S or rivers and Lagoons.

Rock and Surf

I would use between 0.60mm - 0.85mm Maxima or Kingfisher leader line. Make sure that your rod eyes are of a good quality eg Fuji or Pacific and that the front tip needs to be at least 16mm in diameter to accommodate you leader knot.

 It is not necessary to use braid especially if you just starting out. Braid Can become a bit costly (@ R1,00/metre if not more) and with joining braid to monofilament/nylon/gut requires knowledge of special knots which in itself is not impossible to learn.

Moreover, if you are using a mulitiplier (Penn Type ) reel you should be cock-sure of your casting technique as it is an exercise in frustration trying to undo bird's nests should you end up with one of these.

To avoid bird's nests I would only use braid on a good quality braid compatible spinning reel.

River

In the river I would fish with light tackle of between 10 and 20 pound breaking strain. Here the lighter the tackle the better not to say you would not catch anything, but you would improve your strike rate dramatically. I seldom fish with a leader as there is almost never structure (reefs, mussel beds) that are going to cut you off; I use a leader (about 15-20 pound breaking strain of about 1m max) only if i fish with braid in a river.

PS: don't forget your bite trace in both instances for shad/elf.

Cheers and good luck with your endeavours.
 

steven p

New member
hi thanx guys sorry 4 the delay in replying i am doing rock and surf and usin a penn 545 as well as shimano speedmaster so wots da best option 4 me im also using 0.55 line with 6 ounce sinker
 

sakkie7116

Senior Member
steven p wrote:
hi thanx guys sorry 4 the delay in replying i am doing rock and surf and usin a penn 545 as well as shimano speedmaster so wots da best option 4 me im also using 0.55 line with 6 ounce sinker
Shaiks .55 is a bit thick for what you want to hunt. From the beach rather go down to .35 or .45 especially with the sinker that u are using. You will get much better distance as well.
 We use .55 for sliding and big toothy critters.
For a leader i would suggest you use a .65 to .75 for the shad and Cob.
Once you start fishing for sharks then you can go for the thicker diameter leaders.
 

Mr J

Senior Member
sakkie7116 wrote:
steven p wrote:
hi thanx guys sorry 4 the delay in replying i am doing rock and surf and usin a penn 545 as well as shimano speedmaster so wots da best option 4 me im also using 0.55 line with 6 ounce sinker
Shaiks .55 is a bit thick for what you want to hunt. From the beach rather go down to .35 or .45 especially with the sinker that u are using. You will get much better distance as well.
 We use .55 for sliding and big toothy critters.
For a leader i would suggest you use a .65 to .75 for the shad and Cob.
Once you start fishing for sharks then you can go for the thicker diameter leaders.
Agreed.
 

porkhead

Sealiner
Agreed. 0.55 is way to heavy.

I would suggest a .45 mono. (a bit of an overkill, but it will help you when you get stuck in the rocks. Use a .40 for your sinker weights. That way you will only loose your sinker, if you get stuck.... or that's the theory. You r line will also be able to take more of a beating. Further suggestion is Double X, as it is nice and limp, with very low memory)

Leader gauge, is all depending on your rod and your eyes. As stated above, if you eyes can handle a .70, then try that. A thicker leader is harder to cast. I use Kingfisher leader line. (be careful when you make your first few casts, as the leader will have some memory from the spool and may be a bit difficult)



ALSO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WIND YOUR LEADER KNOT ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE SPOOL, TO WHERE YOU USE YOUR THUMB.... or you gonna learn to speak foreign.
 
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