Interesting article (link to another site)
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Def-e-nition
Sealiner
Reefman wrote:
the ironic thing is - It does ...........
Normally I go all tunnel Vision and end up sticking to the middle .
the thought of packin in all my tackle and and moving down the coast is , well , crappy !
But I should try and do it more often , increase my chances of hitting something .
But yes- the currents here on this part of the coastline always flow , Left to right ....
the ironic thing is - It does ...........
Normally I go all tunnel Vision and end up sticking to the middle .
the thought of packin in all my tackle and and moving down the coast is , well , crappy !
But I should try and do it more often , increase my chances of hitting something .
But yes- the currents here on this part of the coastline always flow , Left to right ....
Cobus Blouberg
Senior Member
To quote from the second article and then see my question below it:
Before we have a look at features it’s important to understand how fish react and feed throughout the tides. As a rule of thumb, it’s important to note that fish feed into the current. This means they face their heads into the moving current at all times. Positive movement (feeding) will therefore always move fish against the flow of the current. Fish do this simply to maintain a favorable position which enables them to maintain position and to grab hold of food washed by the current.
Question:- do I now cast into the current/above my spot/boat/bridge or downstream/current?
Probably sounds like a stupid question, but so be it...
Before we have a look at features it’s important to understand how fish react and feed throughout the tides. As a rule of thumb, it’s important to note that fish feed into the current. This means they face their heads into the moving current at all times. Positive movement (feeding) will therefore always move fish against the flow of the current. Fish do this simply to maintain a favorable position which enables them to maintain position and to grab hold of food washed by the current.
Question:- do I now cast into the current/above my spot/boat/bridge or downstream/current?
Probably sounds like a stupid question, but so be it...
Hiya Cobus,
To quickly answer your question, the fish will find your bait. Fish would not stay static, but move up the current if they wanted to move to a more favourable vantage. The features you would want to look for would be obstacles were fish would bunch up or be forced jostle position for the best chance of finding food.
Something like the first 10 meters of a sand bank coming of a gulley or rip would be a likely spot to try.
If you have ever watched fish in a tank or at the aquarium you will notice that nature’s rule of thumb applies under the water too! If you are the biggest or most aggressive fish you occupy the best spot at the dinner table.
The part about fish heading and feeding into the current I always find interesting because depending on the feature and tide it explains why some times you get a drop bite and other times a run bite. Many anglers fishing in features where the dominant flow is onto or diagonally forward towards the beach often misses or does not recognise bites because then appear as the tide action on the rig.
Next time when you get a few good drop bites have a look at the tide and features you are fishing and adjust your fishing…you could be surprised!
To quickly answer your question, the fish will find your bait. Fish would not stay static, but move up the current if they wanted to move to a more favourable vantage. The features you would want to look for would be obstacles were fish would bunch up or be forced jostle position for the best chance of finding food.
Something like the first 10 meters of a sand bank coming of a gulley or rip would be a likely spot to try.
If you have ever watched fish in a tank or at the aquarium you will notice that nature’s rule of thumb applies under the water too! If you are the biggest or most aggressive fish you occupy the best spot at the dinner table.
The part about fish heading and feeding into the current I always find interesting because depending on the feature and tide it explains why some times you get a drop bite and other times a run bite. Many anglers fishing in features where the dominant flow is onto or diagonally forward towards the beach often misses or does not recognise bites because then appear as the tide action on the rig.
Next time when you get a few good drop bites have a look at the tide and features you are fishing and adjust your fishing…you could be surprised!
...kRiLLin...
Senior Member
Lovely stuff Gentz i'm loving the infomation overflow, didn know fishing can get so intense, theres yet 2 b a day that i log on 2 Sealine and not learn anything....Thanks againDef-e-nition
Sealiner
Gerhard wrote:
Glentana .
But as the location is a virtual Mirror , along the south coast anyway , of one another - It will and should be , left to right . It is Rare that we ever experiance a right to left On any stretch along this part of the coast .
Good guess though . I fished saturday in what can only be described as the mother of all rips - Right next to a rock .
so - you can guerss where all my sinkers got wrapped around , while fishing for Galjoen on saturday .........................Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..!!
The holes here are Nice , and when they work - you have guys like Psy Driving through from wilderness of all places , to come and fish with me . but thats just Psy- He's crazy about fishing . Good god My wife Is so scared the phone rings - HEY !!! PSY !! so we going fishing ???? !!!!!!!!!!!! Lolololol !!!!!!
Glentana .
But as the location is a virtual Mirror , along the south coast anyway , of one another - It will and should be , left to right . It is Rare that we ever experiance a right to left On any stretch along this part of the coast .
Good guess though . I fished saturday in what can only be described as the mother of all rips - Right next to a rock .
so - you can guerss where all my sinkers got wrapped around , while fishing for Galjoen on saturday .........................Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..!!
The holes here are Nice , and when they work - you have guys like Psy Driving through from wilderness of all places , to come and fish with me . but thats just Psy- He's crazy about fishing . Good god My wife Is so scared the phone rings - HEY !!! PSY !! so we going fishing ???? !!!!!!!!!!!! Lolololol !!!!!!
I thought I would chime in as well.
When I go spearfishing I usually find the fish on the sheltered side of the rock or outcrop. This is not an absolute rule. When the water is very slack they might be in the more aerated side which is getting more wash.
The other key is the way that fish are usually right at your feet. Along a lot of the coast there is structure close inshore and barren wasteland around.
I keep going back to the example of Beacon Island Rocks. I have seen lovely white steenbras and cracker in about 10m from the rocks. When I swim out further it gets quieter.
On my first spearfishing trip to Cape St Francis we swam ourselves stukkend looking for fish and managed one or two nice ones. On our way out, the guy who's house we were staying at said that he is just popping in to get supper.
He crawled with his gun into a foaming gulley and came back in 10 minutes with a five kilo cracker. He said that it was about chest deep. He had the crap kicked out of him in the gulley and did not recommend it for first timers. I don't think that he was ever more than about 20m from the rocks.
Before hoisting the bait to the horizon, try close inshore as well.
There is another feature in the water that is often overlooked. That is the current line or foam line in sheltered water. (In the Cape Town the
harders tend to hang around skimming off the foam and micro-goodies that they eat.
If I was a leervis I would ambush them at a rate while they are feeding up on top.
It seems intuitive that a live bait suspended on a short stroppy around the foam slick should be tempting.
Casting a popper through would make the harder scatter and the "trrrrrrrrrrr"sound that make when they scatter (scitter?) often brings fish in.
When a game fish is on. get your buddy to cast a few metres behind the fish on the line. It is uncanny how yellowtail and others hang around their speared friend.
When I go spearfishing I usually find the fish on the sheltered side of the rock or outcrop. This is not an absolute rule. When the water is very slack they might be in the more aerated side which is getting more wash.
The other key is the way that fish are usually right at your feet. Along a lot of the coast there is structure close inshore and barren wasteland around.
I keep going back to the example of Beacon Island Rocks. I have seen lovely white steenbras and cracker in about 10m from the rocks. When I swim out further it gets quieter.
On my first spearfishing trip to Cape St Francis we swam ourselves stukkend looking for fish and managed one or two nice ones. On our way out, the guy who's house we were staying at said that he is just popping in to get supper.
He crawled with his gun into a foaming gulley and came back in 10 minutes with a five kilo cracker. He said that it was about chest deep. He had the crap kicked out of him in the gulley and did not recommend it for first timers. I don't think that he was ever more than about 20m from the rocks.
Before hoisting the bait to the horizon, try close inshore as well.
There is another feature in the water that is often overlooked. That is the current line or foam line in sheltered water. (In the Cape Town the
harders tend to hang around skimming off the foam and micro-goodies that they eat.
If I was a leervis I would ambush them at a rate while they are feeding up on top.
It seems intuitive that a live bait suspended on a short stroppy around the foam slick should be tempting.
Casting a popper through would make the harder scatter and the "trrrrrrrrrrr"sound that make when they scatter (scitter?) often brings fish in.
When a game fish is on. get your buddy to cast a few metres behind the fish on the line. It is uncanny how yellowtail and others hang around their speared friend.