I going to target karp tomorrow in a small sp
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Stefan Engelbrecht
Sealiner
I had a nice few throws at the beach this afternoon...picked up a good sunburn though! A few knocks on tjokka and a friend had a good pull from something big on a slide bait and landed a small bronzie on the next slide. Water looked great but we took the wrong tackle and bait.
Anyways, back to braid...for big carp...firstly, braid remains "fishable" even at high breaking strains. The higher you can fish, the better. Secondly, there is minimal stretch which means your rod is doing the work and not the line. You want the rod doing the work because that is why we have expensive graphite rods. Those are my two main reasons for fishing braid when targeting big carp. The braid I use is 30lb Fireline.
Braailegend,
There is not one difference between conventional and european or "specimen" fishing that stands out, rather it is a whole network of differences that work together to yield different results.
My biggest challenge about this topic is that every situation should be handled individually. Targeting big carp is a specialist fishing persuit and requires specialist tackle and tactics. Some rods you use are stronger and some reels are also stronger. Let me put it this way - you get carp angling and then you get big carp angling. That is why I don't like the term specimen angling because it is not descript. With minimal changes to you current setup, you can safely be landing bigger carp and even land a few 20lb carp (9 - 13kg). But targeting really big carp of 40lb and up requires a whole different tackle setup. You also don't start here...you start and learn on smaller carp and progress up. If you try and start at the top you will most likely take longer to become successful...
For general carp angling with european methods your normal conventional rod and reel is fine. Put some thicker line on, don't use a leader and use a hooklink with a lower breaking strain than your mainline. Use a lead setup that ensures that the lead can come off if the line breaks and you are ready to go.
Change your feeding strategy and your bait and where you place your bait and you are in business. Well that is the basics and from there it becomes complicated...
Anyways, back to braid...for big carp...firstly, braid remains "fishable" even at high breaking strains. The higher you can fish, the better. Secondly, there is minimal stretch which means your rod is doing the work and not the line. You want the rod doing the work because that is why we have expensive graphite rods. Those are my two main reasons for fishing braid when targeting big carp. The braid I use is 30lb Fireline.
Braailegend,
There is not one difference between conventional and european or "specimen" fishing that stands out, rather it is a whole network of differences that work together to yield different results.
My biggest challenge about this topic is that every situation should be handled individually. Targeting big carp is a specialist fishing persuit and requires specialist tackle and tactics. Some rods you use are stronger and some reels are also stronger. Let me put it this way - you get carp angling and then you get big carp angling. That is why I don't like the term specimen angling because it is not descript. With minimal changes to you current setup, you can safely be landing bigger carp and even land a few 20lb carp (9 - 13kg). But targeting really big carp of 40lb and up requires a whole different tackle setup. You also don't start here...you start and learn on smaller carp and progress up. If you try and start at the top you will most likely take longer to become successful...
For general carp angling with european methods your normal conventional rod and reel is fine. Put some thicker line on, don't use a leader and use a hooklink with a lower breaking strain than your mainline. Use a lead setup that ensures that the lead can come off if the line breaks and you are ready to go.
Change your feeding strategy and your bait and where you place your bait and you are in business. Well that is the basics and from there it becomes complicated...
Brakkanjan
Senior Member
Ek het met my pa nou die dag gesels, hy het altyd 40 LBS Maxima Green gehengel in die see, dam, rivier.
Hy het nou oorgegaan na .4mm Awa Shima en vang steeds groot vis, sy hoeke is groter, groter aas ook. Ek hengel konvensionele styl met klein hoeke en ek glo dis hoekom sy vis groter is.
Hy het ook al aan my gese:
Manne hou by wat vir jou werk, wees rustig en ontspan die kuite. Ek glo nog steeds ek gaan ooit so groot vis soos Deisel vang nie, maar wel eendag net een so groot karp die konvensionele manier.
Hy het nou oorgegaan na .4mm Awa Shima en vang steeds groot vis, sy hoeke is groter, groter aas ook. Ek hengel konvensionele styl met klein hoeke en ek glo dis hoekom sy vis groter is.
Hy het ook al aan my gese:
- Jy gaan niks vang as jy nie 'n lyn in die water het nie[/*]
- As die vis honger is gaan hulle eet, maak nie saak of die lyn geel of pienk is nie
Manne hou by wat vir jou werk, wees rustig en ontspan die kuite. Ek glo nog steeds ek gaan ooit so groot vis soos Deisel vang nie, maar wel eendag net een so groot karp die konvensionele manier.
MarvelousMark
Senior Member
How about we give someone a carp eye transplant and sort this out "once and for all" LOL..!!
Any volunteers..?
LOL..!!Any volunteers..?
Naruto
Sealiner
I prefer a low visibility line after I did some tests at UJ and found that I caught less and smaller fish on the Hi-vis. I used to even make the main line of my rig hi-vis. My fishins has definately improved.
I do however like using a Hi-vis main line at nite, but the last 2m will be low-vis.
I Use 17lbs XX brown cameleon line as a leader. Have even casted some P4's without any hassle.
I also know the specimen guys use leadcore as a leader and in some of their rigs to keep the line on the bottom and not spook the fish. Older/Bigger carp did not become older/bigger because the are stupid. I read about a couple(specimen anglers) that did not catch any fish until they added small pinch-weights to the rig to keep the line out of sight.
I do however like using a Hi-vis main line at nite, but the last 2m will be low-vis.
I Use 17lbs XX brown cameleon line as a leader. Have even casted some P4's without any hassle.
I also know the specimen guys use leadcore as a leader and in some of their rigs to keep the line on the bottom and not spook the fish. Older/Bigger carp did not become older/bigger because the are stupid. I read about a couple(specimen anglers) that did not catch any fish until they added small pinch-weights to the rig to keep the line out of sight.
Naruto
Sealiner
MarvelousMark wrote:
Hahaha!How about we give someone a carp eye transplant and sort this out "once and for all"
Any volunteers..?
I think A high vis main line with A clear leader can go A long way. I think high vis main line can help A lot to steer fish away from visible snags or lines or what ever these carp find to swim over or around. I would just make sure my clear leader is long enough, makes good sense to me personally. For me its more important to keep all of my main line flat on the ground (light or no bobbins) I think A clear main line 20cm of the bottom will scare more fish away then A coloured line flat on the bottom. Just my 5c.