I am in the market for a new 11ft shore spinning r

[Jacquesdw]

Bosbok wrote:

Hi Jacquesdw - just wondering - the fish in the picture looks more like a Belman than a Cob ?

Definitely a cob. Maybe the hook sticking out its bottom jaw confused you. But a belman would have been awesome!

 

[Haroldg]

@Jacquesdw - I've had a look at the Palms Shoregun range of spinning rods and must say that they are very impressive and very well priced. I have a 10' Aerocast which caters for lures up to 50g even though the rating is up to 100g. The 11' Palm option unfortunately only caters for lures up to 50g. Have you come across an outfit that would handle lures up to 70g (2.5oz)?

 

[Jacquesdw]

Haroldg wrote:

@Jacquesdw - I've had a look at the Palms Shoregun range of spinning rods and must say that they are very impressive and very well priced. I have a 10' Aerocast which caters for lures up to 50g even though the rating is up to 100g. The 11' Palm option unfortunately only caters for lures up to 50g. Have you come across an outfit that would handle lures up to 70g (2.5oz)?

Hi Harold. Email Jed, the owner of Cloud Nine, and ask him when he will have stock again. He is very helpfull.

You can look at the locally available Amia Kob, Graphcast (Alcocks) etc.

Other option is to look at Majorcraft Shore jigging rods available through www.plat.co.jp  I am selling a Majorcraft KG Evolution 96 15-60g - ad will be up soon. Great rod that I am not using much anymore.  But for your needs, I would get one of the Skyroad Plugging rods http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/default/language/en/manufacturers_id/17/sort/2a/page/1/filter_id/2863/major-craft.html  Also Youtube shore jigging. Very interesting way of fishing deeper waters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8DRyILXFzo

 

[Haroldg]

Thanks for the input Jacques - appreciated

 

[Haroldg]

Hi Jacques - I've mailed Jed and await his reply. What would you say the effective casting weight range is on the Palms 11' outfit you have? What is the action like - fast, slow? Are you able to compare this with the 10' Aerocast?

Thanks a lot

 

[Carll]

that guy wrote:

Lesath is almost identical to Sierra. Lesath was made in france and getting spares from EU Shimano is a mission. Basil just adopted the blank and made it more accessible. Sierra will always come out on top in comparison with aerocast and heavy amia.

Riekert - I'm sorry but you cannot even begin to compare an x-h amia with a sierra or any other rod. they completely different rods for different applications.

Areocast is very similar in proportions to a Sierra. Just big difference with the guides.

Light amia with microwave will do everything you need. Its heavier and i'm not a big fan of the male-female join thats opposite to a normal join in that the tip section is the female. But these are petty issues when you look at the price. I've asked a lot from my light amia and always felt it was a bit disrespectful to my stella but alas... it never let me down. it throws amazingly and does the job.

I also have an aerocast i use as a standby and the heavier amia for paddle tails.

Bottom line:
Sierra = Lesath = Brilliance = $$$$
Aerocast is quality of course. Spare section is expensive
Amia heavy will do the same job.

Amia xh is a different purpose rod.

If money is no issue - Sierra
If you want a rod and a pile of lures and braid to last a while - Amia

Hi

Why do you say "they completely different rods for different applications."

Both the Assassin Amia and Sierra are shore game Spinning rods and are specifically designed for throwing Lures,spoons and plugs.

The big difference between the Amia and Sierra is the rod blank.The Sierra features the latest High Modulas Carbon technology making them by far the lightest shoregame fishing rods available today.

 

[Jacquesdw]

Haroldg wrote:

Hi Jacques - I've mailed Jed and await his reply. What would you say the effective casting weight range is on the Palms 11' outfit you have? What is the action like - fast, slow? Are you able to compare this with the 10' Aerocast?

Thanks a lot

Will send pm asap.
Apologies for a potential thread hijack.

 

[that guy]

Carll wrote:

that guy wrote:

Lesath is almost identical to Sierra. Lesath was made in france and getting spares from EU Shimano is a mission. Basil just adopted the blank and made it more accessible. Sierra will always come out on top in comparison with aerocast and heavy amia.

Riekert - I'm sorry but you cannot even begin to compare an x-h amia with a sierra or any other rod. they completely different rods for different applications.

Areocast is very similar in proportions to a Sierra. Just big difference with the guides.

Light amia with microwave will do everything you need. Its heavier and i'm not a big fan of the male-female join thats opposite to a normal join in that the tip section is the female. But these are petty issues when you look at the price. I've asked a lot from my light amia and always felt it was a bit disrespectful to my stella but alas... it never let me down. it throws amazingly and does the job.

I also have an aerocast i use as a standby and the heavier amia for paddle tails.

Bottom line:
Sierra = Lesath = Brilliance = $$$$
Aerocast is quality of course. Spare section is expensive
Amia heavy will do the same job.

Amia xh is a different purpose rod.

If money is no issue - Sierra
If you want a rod and a pile of lures and braid to last a while - Amia

Hi

Why do you say "they completely different rods for different applications."

Both the Assassin Amia and Sierra are shore game Spinning rods and are specifically designed for throwing Lures,spoons and plugs.

The big difference between the Amia and Sierra is the rod blank.The Sierra features the latest High Modulas Carbon technology making them by far the lightest shoregame fishing rods available today.

i said the amia x-heavy and the heavy sierra (330H) are completely different rods. Its night and day. Its like comparing a purglas 350/5 and a medium HMG. Both of them are shore fishing rods designed to throw baits.

The profile of the rods, the action, the way you even fight a fish is different.

The heavy amia with microwave guides is as close as it comes.

The devil is in the details. The best example is fly rods.

 

[Ivan van Wyk]

What braid are you using, I have a 9ft aerocast with sustain 5000 loaded with 25 pound Gozen Jigging braid. Lost 5 yellowtail Kingfish in the 4-8kg range one afternoon at Rocky Bay. I found the braid to break at the first touch a rock. Very enjoyable while the fight lasted. Expensive losing all your GT Icecreams and Onda's in one day though.

I also have a 11 ft Aerocast for Snoek at Umdoni Point. I enjoy all my Shimano rods. My Favourite is my Crucial 7 ft Tiger with a 2500 Stradic loaded with 15 pound Gozen. This rod has serious backbone. Caught lots of fish in the 2-3 kg range mostly Kingfish Rock salmon ect. It is an overkill for Shad. Walk miles and spin for ours on end with this rod. Don't touch the old Assasin rods anymore.
I personally prefer the Aerocasts because I can take them with me anywhere because they are 3 piece rods come with a decent rod tube, they have serious backbone, are light and well constructed. The new Sienna is obviously a very nice piece of equipment but I'll stick with my 11 ft Aerocast if only for its transportability.