how to fish plastic flukes . . .

[arab]

We went to Bronkies last weekend, and I threw my spinner bait around- with no luck… till eventually got it stuck and had to cut the line. So I thought Id try a plastic watermelon gold fluke, which worked pretty well.

Now compared to baby flukes, I think that the larger flukes don’t swim as well. So I try a ‘non-conventional’ rig, where I took the weighted hook out of a cheap set of swim baits (R15 for 10) and put it on the fluke. This made the fluke swim well, with good tail action and the fluke darting from side to side… my problem though is that the hook was too small and had the wrong shape, so I managed to hook quite a lot of fish, but didn’t have the chance to land most of them, so this was quite frustrating…

So I was wondering if you get such 'mid-weighted' bass hooks off the shelf? Cus I’ve herd of putty sinkers but I don’t know how well they work, I really like the way these fluke swims (and so do the fish) but the hooks is just useless…

Any ideas?

 

 

[100% African]

Hey, they sell weighted bass hooks for exactly this. They made by diachii, I think. but they pretty expensive. Come in different sizes and weights. I'm sure they can also be used for horny toads too...

 

[100% African]

by daiichi, check it out here.
http://www.haddrellspoint.com/product/daiichi-bleeding-bait-butt-draggers.html

I know basil manning has them in kzn

 

[Bigmouth]

Lions tackle manufacture those for very cheap (about 20 per packet of 5) might be even less than that, can't remember the exact price.

Go get them from Bouwer Broers in Voortrekker weg Pretoria

Ask for Renier

 

[arab]

thanx for the help 100% African, those daiichi hooks are very similar to ones i have, but a bigger could help, but i think the hook should have a bit more curviture? so that its not as easy for the fish to spit it out (im not too sure how correct this theory is), i did a bit more research today and found gamakatsu makes a "weighted superline EWG" hook which people use for frogs and swimbaits, they seem quite pricing, so i dont know if they worth it ?

the gamakatsu hooks i wana try? dont know if it will be worth it, cus if you check my picks, the hook eye doesnt come from the nose of fluke, but rather from the top of the fluke... which i think makes it swim nicer?

the daiichi hook which has the correct hook eye orientation, but im not to sure if there is enough curviture?

 

ideally i would like a hook with the gamakatsu shape + weighting and the eye of the daiichi, i dono if there is anything like that out there?

 

 

[Herman Nel]

Another option...

 

[Herman Nel]

Rigged up!

 

[Herman Nel]

I love the VENOM SICKLE HOOKS in RED, Especially when fished with a WHITE FLUKE!

 

Regards

Herman

 

[Herman Nel]

Those VENOM HOOKS are "moer" sharp and they hookup very well!

 

[Herman Nel]

Here is the real deal...Just bloody scarce in my part of the world!

 

[arab]

thanks herman, that rig you set up with the junebug flukes looks pritty cool, but i dono, if it will swim as nice as these venom hooks you posted... i think out of all the hooks ive checked out- they look they best by far! i just wish they turned the eye facing up, so that it comes out of the fluke from the top (but i guess i could just bend it that way ?)

where can i get them in pta? and at what cost?

 

[Little Green Fish]

arab wrote:

thanks herman, that rig you set up with the junebug flukes looks pritty cool, but i dono, if it will swim as nice as these venom hooks you posted... i think out of all the hooks ive checked out- they look they best by far! i just wish they turned the eye facing up, so that it comes out of the fluke from the top (but i guess i could just bend it that way ?)

where can i get them in pta? and at what cost?

arab, don't  bend the eyes upwards, they'll break off, it you're lucky and they don't the first little rat will..... heating them, then twisting/bending and cooling them in water or oil etc, doesn't help they still break.

 

[arab]

flip, so bending the hook right is a no go :/

it really seems that out of the million and one hooks available out there that there isnt this shape ?

ive photoshoped the venom hook to eplain what i mean... 

 

 

[SmokingToe]

arab the "spring" bit is confusing considering what u want to do. photoshop that out aswell and i'd extend the bended bit to be further out than the loop at the end, or very close to it at least, otherwise u gna be stuck with the same problem of loosing them all the time.

 

[arab]

well, on a different note... has anyone tried the Zoom supper flukes? are they better than the normal flukes or is it one of those "lure for fishermen" and not the fish.....

 

[Q-bass]

Just hang a small dropshot weight onto a normal hook. It is known as the CBC rig. Rob Fisher refered to them when they did the ESA shows. CBC = Crankbait Carl, well respected fisherman in de Kaap.

 

[michael grey]

I have seen people take a large bass hook and just put a split shot on it.

 

[Little Green Fish]

There's another way, you could always just take some soldering wire and wrap that around the shank/bend, nice thing about it (if you use the thinnest you can get) is that you can control the ammount of weight you add.... and it stays stuck, doesn't come off like a splitshot that never seems to really grip the shank properly.

 

[arab]

i think ill try and weight the hooks with some soldering wire to weight it, then solder then ends to the hooks? next time i get a chance ill give it a shot... ill have to hold thumbs that it works till then.

 

[Little Green Fish]

No need to solder the ends to the hooks but if you wanna go that route remember to roughen up the hook shank so the soldering will stick to it, and obvious but nonetheless important remember to solder from the end side and not from the coil side as it might shorten the coil as you try and get the soldering to take on the hook shank.