Ye,those drag washers seem a bit k?!ky so wil definately get those carbontex 4it. I want that bush as well. Did u find that the reel was quite 'fussy' when putting it bak 2getha. It took us hours 2get it bak 2gether. 4 sum reason we werent getting the pinion gear aligned 100% and wudnt work. Eventualy got it rite after hours of frustration. Especialy when springs seem to vanish in2 thin air! Anyway cant wait 4the weather 2turn and get a pull on it!
Hi i will be making bushes from vesconite and tefl
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Hello everyone to all the leather drag users out there see ALan Tani's take on leather; we chat now and then i agree with him totally on his view and share the same sentiment exactly, maybe what i have said all the time will maybe make better sense. Every good reel manufacturer has realised the value of carbon drags and are producing them standard as well to compete with Penn and Smooth drag USA,ABU to bring you the best drag straight out of the box even Shimano has it on the DC and most boat reels do as well now, i think the new Finnors may also have them standard thankx.
Alan's Workbench
Fishing Reel Drag Systems
Mar. 27 2009, 11:18 AM
[size=[size=4]There are several different drag systems that are commonly used in reels today. Their smoothness, this lack of “start up,†can sometimes be the difference between landing a fish or not. I service an average of about a thousand reels a year, and I think I’ve pretty much seen every drag material that’s ever been used. Remember, I would define a “smooth drag†as having less than 10 percent “start up.†If you have a weight that is equivalent to your drag setting and hang that weight on the reel, a smooth drag would allow that weight to drop one foot every five seconds. A “reliable drag†would then be a smooth drag that would never become sticky as the reel ages. Simple enough, so let’s see what’s out there. [/size]]
[size=Leather was used as a drag material in the early Mitchells from France, the early Ocean Citys, the early Penns, and many others. It did not perform well. Over the years, many different materials were developed, including felt, particleboard, hard carbon, and some unique composites. They all became sticky over time. Coarse woven carbon fiber, their famous HT-100, eventually became the drag material of choice for Penn, but this material would stick if it became wet, corroded or oily. Shimano took it one step further by adding pure Teflon grease and found that their greased carbon fiber drag system never failed. Yes, that is never, as in not ever, not once, zero. This wet drag system has now found its way into the flagship two-speed lever drag reels of many manufacturers, including Penn, Daiwa, and Okuma. The engineers at Accurate used dry carbon fiber in 1996 with their first reels, and then added Cal’s Drag Grease in 2007. They also now enjoy a zero failure rate with their drag systems.]
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[size=[size=4]Greased carbon fiber is only now starting to show up in star drag reels. Pro Gear used these drag washers in the final runs of their Albacore Special and Classic Series reels, but the company is now gone. Daiwa is using greased carbon in their new Saltist 20 and 30. Okuma has a Carbonite drag washer, which is also greased carbon fiber. This is admittedly a short list, but I believe that it will be getting longer in the near future. If your reel has a dry carbon fiber drag system and has become sticky, the simple addition of a pure Teflon grease is an option. If your reel has a different type of drag material, your local tackle shop may be able to install carbon fiber. Upgrades such as this usually involve adapting a Penn HT-100 or an aftermarket Carbontex drag washer. The addition of a Cal’s Drag Grease will then give your star drag reel the same smoothness and reliability enjoyed by the most expensive two-speed lever drag reels.[/size]]
Alan's Workbench
Fishing Reel Drag Systems
Mar. 27 2009, 11:18 AM
[size=[size=4]There are several different drag systems that are commonly used in reels today. Their smoothness, this lack of “start up,†can sometimes be the difference between landing a fish or not. I service an average of about a thousand reels a year, and I think I’ve pretty much seen every drag material that’s ever been used. Remember, I would define a “smooth drag†as having less than 10 percent “start up.†If you have a weight that is equivalent to your drag setting and hang that weight on the reel, a smooth drag would allow that weight to drop one foot every five seconds. A “reliable drag†would then be a smooth drag that would never become sticky as the reel ages. Simple enough, so let’s see what’s out there. [/size]]
[size=Leather was used as a drag material in the early Mitchells from France, the early Ocean Citys, the early Penns, and many others. It did not perform well. Over the years, many different materials were developed, including felt, particleboard, hard carbon, and some unique composites. They all became sticky over time. Coarse woven carbon fiber, their famous HT-100, eventually became the drag material of choice for Penn, but this material would stick if it became wet, corroded or oily. Shimano took it one step further by adding pure Teflon grease and found that their greased carbon fiber drag system never failed. Yes, that is never, as in not ever, not once, zero. This wet drag system has now found its way into the flagship two-speed lever drag reels of many manufacturers, including Penn, Daiwa, and Okuma. The engineers at Accurate used dry carbon fiber in 1996 with their first reels, and then added Cal’s Drag Grease in 2007. They also now enjoy a zero failure rate with their drag systems.]
[size= ]
[size=[size=4]Greased carbon fiber is only now starting to show up in star drag reels. Pro Gear used these drag washers in the final runs of their Albacore Special and Classic Series reels, but the company is now gone. Daiwa is using greased carbon in their new Saltist 20 and 30. Okuma has a Carbonite drag washer, which is also greased carbon fiber. This is admittedly a short list, but I believe that it will be getting longer in the near future. If your reel has a dry carbon fiber drag system and has become sticky, the simple addition of a pure Teflon grease is an option. If your reel has a different type of drag material, your local tackle shop may be able to install carbon fiber. Upgrades such as this usually involve adapting a Penn HT-100 or an aftermarket Carbontex drag washer. The addition of a Cal’s Drag Grease will then give your star drag reel the same smoothness and reliability enjoyed by the most expensive two-speed lever drag reels.[/size]]