Hi guys just curious to know which one do you guys

Buds1

New member
Hi guys just curious to know which one do you guys prefer the H frame or the L frame.I basically want to know which is more comfortable and what should be added to increase comfort.

Already read the posts,tips are great but could not find feed back as to whether it works or not.Thanks in advance.

I will only be able to respond on Saturday,so please do not feel that I am ignoring any replies.

Thanks in advance
 

Pylstert

Sealiner
You need a frame that does not rub against your back, regardless of the shape and it needs proper padded and adjustable hipbelt and shoulder straps. The butterfly frames on the old army type back packs were supposedly the most comfortable frames in the days when backpacks were still made with internal frames.

If you are fitting a tackle box to a frame it is basically going to end up as an "L" shaped frame due to the extension needed to accommodate the box
 

Mike D

Senior Member
Pylstert wrote:
You need a frame that does not rub against your back, regardless of the shape and it needs proper padded and adjustable hipbelt and shoulder straps. The butterfly frames on the old army type back packs were supposedly the most comfortable frames in the days when backpacks were still made with internal frames.

If you are fitting a tackle box to a frame it is basically going to end up as an "L" shaped frame due to the extension needed to accommodate the box

I agree with Pylstert. The only reason I made the H frame was to accomodate a cushion (removable for washing purposes), which also serves to strengthen the frame.

 

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I have one of these Vali Moosa bags (blue canvas and marine ply bags). It was a killer on my shoulders.

Then got me an army H-frame and removed the straps on the blue bag and strapped that onto the H-frame. I now walk a mile (actually much more than just a mile) with the new setup PLUS a Safari chiller with bait on top of the blue bag.
 

metroFail

New member
I prefer an L frame, much eaiser to stack you gear on it, i took the L frame concept and custom made a bag, its under the megred tackle box building thread

It is murder to walk long distances with a L frame with just shoulder straps, i really want to fit a waist strap to put the weight on my hips rather than my shoulders for long distances.

i think the best way to do it, an expensive way that is, is to get a modern 65/75 litre backpack and cut off the bag part leaving the stiffened back piece with shoulder and waist straps and fit that to an L frame.

so that your L frame looks like this commercial one from cabelas.com
 

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Pylstert

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a hip belt/waist strap is a must, it is at the very essence of carying heavy weights. it is how you distribute the weight across your back. why don't you just look for an old frame backpack at a 2nd hand shop and fit that to your frame?
 

metroFail

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Pylstert wrote:
a hip belt/waist strap is a must, it is at the very essence of carying heavy weights. it is how you distribute the weight across your back. why don't you just look for an old frame backpack at a 2nd hand shop and fit that to your frame?
very true, my back took quite a beating walking long distance on a fishing trip i went on recently, i had only over used my pack in situations where i only had to walk a couple on 100 metres so it wasnt a problem.
i have a waist strap from an old H frame but i left it in cape town when i moved to SAIAB :doh:doh

im gonig to look around and see if i can get one here, all depends on price, if a 2nd hand modern 65L backpack is gonig for R500 i would rather get that then an old H frame for say R300 as the 65L pack will have nicer fittings

here is what my bag currently looks like
 

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Buds1

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Thanks for all the replies guys.I purchased a second hand back pack today,I have a few questions though:

>do i remove the shoulder straps and hip belt and attach this to the l frame or do i cut the bag to fit the frame into it

>do i make the strap fit around my waist or stomach(got a bit of a belly lol)

>what will be an average height of the entire contraption
 

metroFail

New member
Buds1 wrote:
Thanks for all the replies guys.I purchased a second hand back pack today,I have a few questions though:

>do i remove the shoulder straps and hip belt and attach this to the l frame or do i cut the bag to fit the frame into it

>do i make the strap fit around my waist or stomach(got a bit of a belly lol)

>what will be an average height of the entire contraption
i would cut the bag and fit as the bags is designed to fit you back already, changeing the strap and waist belt placement may make it uncomfortable.

you want the waist straps to sit right on your hips so they take the weight of the bag

i would base my the hight of the L frame on the hight of the back pack, so that the shoulder straps and waist belt work the way they where ment to work when they were still attached to the backpack
 

Buds1

New member
metroFail wrote:
Buds1 wrote:
Thanks for all the replies guys.I purchased a second hand back pack today,I have a few questions though:

>do i remove the shoulder straps and hip belt and attach this to the l frame or do i cut the bag to fit the frame into it

>do i make the strap fit around my waist or stomach(got a bit of a belly lol)

>what will be an average height of the entire contraption
i would cut the bag and fit as the bags is designed to fit you back already, changeing the strap and waist belt placement may make it uncomfortable.

you want the waist straps to sit right on your hips so they take the weight of the bag

i would base my the hight of the L frame on the hight of the back pack, so that the shoulder straps and waist belt work the way they where ment to work when they were still attached to the backpack

Thank you Metrofail,I thought of the same thing except that I may try and get the frame to slide into the bag.Should this be achieved,I will have extra space for clothing.
 
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