sardinella
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Thanks GOJ
The fact that the aerocast is 3 piece and therefore easier to travel with appeals to me.
The fact that the aerocast is 3 piece and therefore easier to travel with appeals to me.
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Hi guys I wanted to know does anyone have a simila
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I fish the 11ft Amia with a 5000 sustain and 15 and 17lb Gosen and to throw three colours off the reel is easy.. When you have a good land breeze behind you and a no 2 bullet, four or five colours is possible. If you can throw 11 colours with the 1.5oz GT ice creams, then you are doing well.
The only way to throw far is to practice practice practice and it helps if you are on a rock where you have a drop behind you and a firm footing so you can really wind it! You must throw to try and break the rod as far as i'm concerned provided obviously that your lure weight is matched correctly to the rod. The Amias are pretty tough and don't break unless you give them a really good reason.
One comment on the 2 versus three piece rods is that with a lot of hard casting while spinning, the sections of the rods almost always start pulling apart. It is very important that you get into a habit of checking to make sure that the joints are still snug every 15 min or so else there is a good chance that you will either throw your tip off at some stage or bust the rod. With the two piece Amias, the joint is an easy reach and you can stretch up and check the joint regularly without putting the rod down. with the three piece rods, you have two joints that you need to check and it is a littel more difficult to reach the top joint. Not a big thing at all, but just something to keep in mind.
The 11ft rods are definitely the way to go when it comes to distance casting.. I have 9 and 10ft rods which I used for soft plastics/dropshot and thought that I could just use these for shore game spinning. I was wrong! Once you fish with a quality 11ft and see where you can put the spoon.. every cent you spend becomes worthwhile..
The only way to throw far is to practice practice practice and it helps if you are on a rock where you have a drop behind you and a firm footing so you can really wind it! You must throw to try and break the rod as far as i'm concerned provided obviously that your lure weight is matched correctly to the rod. The Amias are pretty tough and don't break unless you give them a really good reason.
One comment on the 2 versus three piece rods is that with a lot of hard casting while spinning, the sections of the rods almost always start pulling apart. It is very important that you get into a habit of checking to make sure that the joints are still snug every 15 min or so else there is a good chance that you will either throw your tip off at some stage or bust the rod. With the two piece Amias, the joint is an easy reach and you can stretch up and check the joint regularly without putting the rod down. with the three piece rods, you have two joints that you need to check and it is a littel more difficult to reach the top joint. Not a big thing at all, but just something to keep in mind.
The 11ft rods are definitely the way to go when it comes to distance casting.. I have 9 and 10ft rods which I used for soft plastics/dropshot and thought that I could just use these for shore game spinning. I was wrong! Once you fish with a quality 11ft and see where you can put the spoon.. every cent you spend becomes worthwhile..
I agree with you on all points Rob, one really needs to throw like you want to break the rod and as you say as long as you have not over loaded the rod you will be fine.
Getting 11 colours is damn good with a gt icecream, I can only get 11 - 12.5 colours with the #2 iron candys and that's cracking it like I stole it.
Another important thing to remember about the aerocasts is that you need to cast with the blank in the correct position as a result of the oval base section. Guides forward and you get a pretty sturdy base with medium fast tip, cast side on and the blank becomes quite whippy.
Getting 11 colours is damn good with a gt icecream, I can only get 11 - 12.5 colours with the #2 iron candys and that's cracking it like I stole it.
Another important thing to remember about the aerocasts is that you need to cast with the blank in the correct position as a result of the oval base section. Guides forward and you get a pretty sturdy base with medium fast tip, cast side on and the blank becomes quite whippy.
Nice rods , we were testing the heavy paired with a Stella 5000 and the light with a Stella 4000 this afternoon . After all the hype about these rods we were pretty keen to let a few rip .... Conditions were perfect , no wind and a glassy sea.
Both rods impressed and for the price there are no complaints . Never got any hookups (conditions were too good , fish shut down ) so can't comment on there pulling power . Casting ability is very good - the light felt as u could throw it all day without cracking a swet , using a 1.5 oz spoon it was averaging 13/14 colours .
The heavy took a bit more effort and averaged 11/12 colours with a 1.5 oz spoon and 12/13 colours on 2 oz , did manage to crack a few 13/14 colours when the timming was good .
Both rods impressed and for the price there are no complaints . Never got any hookups (conditions were too good , fish shut down ) so can't comment on there pulling power . Casting ability is very good - the light felt as u could throw it all day without cracking a swet , using a 1.5 oz spoon it was averaging 13/14 colours .
The heavy took a bit more effort and averaged 11/12 colours with a 1.5 oz spoon and 12/13 colours on 2 oz , did manage to crack a few 13/14 colours when the timming was good .
Hi Guys,
Very interesting topic... I am however a bit curious as to if longer casts = more fish or is it a comfort thing? Obviously in certain instances it would, but I mean in general.
The reason for asking is that I have a 9ft Aerocast which I have been using from the side as well as boats. I get between 80 and 90m measured. Is this far enough for spinning from the side up the coast from Durban to Moz?
Very interesting topic... I am however a bit curious as to if longer casts = more fish or is it a comfort thing? Obviously in certain instances it would, but I mean in general.
The reason for asking is that I have a 9ft Aerocast which I have been using from the side as well as boats. I get between 80 and 90m measured. Is this far enough for spinning from the side up the coast from Durban to Moz?
Hi Good topic! Just a point to make is that often casting distances given are a one off thing. Some rods can cast incredible distances but try to maintain that distance over a whole session is almost impossible as you can't keep on loading such a rod for every cast without your arms giving in. Add in that you might be standing waist deep in surf, and not on some comfy rock, where you don't have the space to load a rod properly and your casting distances drop dramatically.
So the best is try out various rods for a whole session if you can, before you buy. It might be better to get a rod that you can fish a whole day with and lose some distance than getting a rod than casts a country mile for about an hour or so.
So the best is try out various rods for a whole session if you can, before you buy. It might be better to get a rod that you can fish a whole day with and lose some distance than getting a rod than casts a country mile for about an hour or so.
Jacquesdw wrote:
This is so true Jacquesdw! With my old 12ft spinning rod I could crack the 140/150 range but that would only be for short 10-15 minute bursts, 4 - 5 of these bursts and your session is over.
With my new 11ft built in line with the "new generation" of medium spinning rods, I might only be able to consistently hit 100 meter casts with every third or forth cast being an extra effort to get to 115-125 metres, but difference is I can do that consistently for close to an hour, catch a 5 minute breather and continue for several hours.
Yes I may spend a little less time in the strike zone of certain species per cast but my total time in the strike zone per session has increased dramatically. That's not to mention how much more comfortable these new gen rods are to fish.
Hi Good topic! Just a point to make is that often casting distances given are a one off thing. Some rods can cast incredible distances but try to maintain that distance over a whole session is almost impossible as you can't keep on loading such a rod for every cast without your arms giving in. Add in that you might be standing waist deep in surf, and not on some comfy rock, where you don't have the space to load a rod properly and your casting distances drop dramatically.
So the best is try out various rods for a whole session if you can, before you buy. It might be better to get a rod that you can fish a whole day with and lose some distance than getting a rod than casts a country mile for about an hour or so.
This is so true Jacquesdw! With my old 12ft spinning rod I could crack the 140/150 range but that would only be for short 10-15 minute bursts, 4 - 5 of these bursts and your session is over.
With my new 11ft built in line with the "new generation" of medium spinning rods, I might only be able to consistently hit 100 meter casts with every third or forth cast being an extra effort to get to 115-125 metres, but difference is I can do that consistently for close to an hour, catch a 5 minute breather and continue for several hours.
Yes I may spend a little less time in the strike zone of certain species per cast but my total time in the strike zone per session has increased dramatically. That's not to mention how much more comfortable these new gen rods are to fish.
I have been using a 10' aerocast for the last two years and doubt I have ever got a 100 meter casting distance with the same lures mentioned here. Ok, I have been using 30 lb Power Pro which might be the reason. I have just bought 20 lb Power Pro Super 8 Slick which I will spool as soon as I get home.
On what Kyle said about the 3 piece rods coming loose... I have never had that problem but last week end I was really winding it up when on a cast I heard this rifle shot sound and my front two sections sail off into the drink. The bottom of the middle section had cracked and I suspect it is because the rod sections were coming loose. Fortunately the binding at the end of the section saved it from shattering completely. Even the varnish popped off from the binding. I will bind it up past the crack and hope it lasts.
The nice thing with these new generation spinning rods is that you can cast for hours and hours, unlike the rods of yester year and the pulling power they offer is awesome.
Keep up the good thread.
On what Kyle said about the 3 piece rods coming loose... I have never had that problem but last week end I was really winding it up when on a cast I heard this rifle shot sound and my front two sections sail off into the drink. The bottom of the middle section had cracked and I suspect it is because the rod sections were coming loose. Fortunately the binding at the end of the section saved it from shattering completely. Even the varnish popped off from the binding. I will bind it up past the crack and hope it lasts.
The nice thing with these new generation spinning rods is that you can cast for hours and hours, unlike the rods of yester year and the pulling power they offer is awesome.
Keep up the good thread.
flippy wrote:
Yes this is my Rod.
Your braid is to thick for that rod -30lbs,so go thinner.
I'm using a 5000 sustain on my 11ft Amia running 10lb Jerry Brown braid and getting round the 110 - 120m with a iron candy No 2 spoon BUT the rod is not standard any more.
Craig aka Enigma, cleaned the blank and removed all the tiny micro rod guides that were fitted standard on the rod. I don’t like them and I got tired of losing expensive lures through braid snap-offs mid-cast. So Craig decided to go with the K-Series (anti-fouling) Concept guides from Fuji,that makes a HUGE difference ! After the custom work was done I can cast with a braid leader of 30lbs - 50lbs
I have a other heaver Custom Spinning rod - 13ft ( Blue Marlin T-53 blank) ,designed from scratch by Craig and im hitting the 150 - 160 meter mark with this rod but thats a differed story...
And a other trick that work...Im rowing on the row machine in the Gym for a Hour for 6days a week ..LOL !
see also this thread and spend lol http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=85893&forum_id=1
Yes this is my Rod.
Your braid is to thick for that rod -30lbs,so go thinner.
I'm using a 5000 sustain on my 11ft Amia running 10lb Jerry Brown braid and getting round the 110 - 120m with a iron candy No 2 spoon BUT the rod is not standard any more.
Craig aka Enigma, cleaned the blank and removed all the tiny micro rod guides that were fitted standard on the rod. I don’t like them and I got tired of losing expensive lures through braid snap-offs mid-cast. So Craig decided to go with the K-Series (anti-fouling) Concept guides from Fuji,that makes a HUGE difference ! After the custom work was done I can cast with a braid leader of 30lbs - 50lbs
I have a other heaver Custom Spinning rod - 13ft ( Blue Marlin T-53 blank) ,designed from scratch by Craig and im hitting the 150 - 160 meter mark with this rod but thats a differed story...
And a other trick that work...Im rowing on the row machine in the Gym for a Hour for 6days a week ..LOL !
Hi Loving this thread!
If you are looking for something good that has quality guides (Fugi SIC K series), very light and lovely rod to cast, look at the Palms Shoregun series. http://www.palms.co.jp/rod/palms-elua/en/shoregun/ (Go to the Japanese section and put it through Google Translate)
I have the 103XXH and the 96H. The 103XXH has 4 double footer guides and then single footers. The rod loads fantastically and I can cast 9 to 10 colours the whole morning with a 72g SV spoon. The 96H is great with slim spoons 5" paddletails and hard minnow plugs. For the Natal guys throwing Iron Candy #2's go for the H+
More pricey than what is available here but definitely not the most expensive rods around. Look at Daiko Rocky shore Purgatory rods for something that could lead to a divorce! http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/default/language/en/manufacturers_id/14/sort/2a/page/1/filter_id/1273/daiko.html
If you are looking for something good that has quality guides (Fugi SIC K series), very light and lovely rod to cast, look at the Palms Shoregun series. http://www.palms.co.jp/rod/palms-elua/en/shoregun/ (Go to the Japanese section and put it through Google Translate)
I have the 103XXH and the 96H. The 103XXH has 4 double footer guides and then single footers. The rod loads fantastically and I can cast 9 to 10 colours the whole morning with a 72g SV spoon. The 96H is great with slim spoons 5" paddletails and hard minnow plugs. For the Natal guys throwing Iron Candy #2's go for the H+
More pricey than what is available here but definitely not the most expensive rods around. Look at Daiko Rocky shore Purgatory rods for something that could lead to a divorce! http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/default/language/en/manufacturers_id/14/sort/2a/page/1/filter_id/1273/daiko.html