Hi all,has anyone fished Doordekraal lately???I go

DJP

Sealiner
Ek weet waar ek nou gaan babers jag met my flyrod!!!! Magic forest se bass is flipen moeilik om te vang, hulle vat nie eers lewendige bluegills nie. Het hulle al daar op Dahlberg diver gevang na sononder.
 

Worm

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I will keep you all posted, im goin Fri again for the whole day!! :) Was not able to go today, decided to study as the wind was hectic!

Quinton yes it is by spar, but the bottom dam(Follow the path all the way down)

Brushhog this was at the bottom dam, i saw no carp or babel on the sides at the top dam, didnt have a good look, but i wouldve heard the splashing as i walked passed.

Yes, exactly, was amazing to see all these fish species, the biodiversity in and around the dam is magnificent!!!!

Yes BMNP, i am told from alot of bass fisherman, that the bass at majic forest do not bite that often, if even at all.

Honestly, i have seen a few guys catch carp at the top dam, iv caught nothing. I saw one of those guys catch a massive catfish +-17kg out the top dam as well. thats with my own eyes, iv also caught many bluegill there and even a tilapia or a kurper(not sure wat it is as, i put a bluegill in my tank and this other tilapia or kurper and it was totally different. Bigger than the bluegill. just so you guys know, i had the bluegill in my tank with my malawis for about 18months, i returned it to majic forest the other day a whole more bigger!!!! And i have caught a bass at the top dam, but this was as big as a bluegill and i used bread, jus by dropping it in front of him, so was a fluke, and no fun. and a lil boy caught little one there on sunday after so many attempts!!! WELL DONE BOYJIE!!!!That was by lure, grub, i think.

 

Now the bottom dam, i have jus started fishing there about a week ago(As i thaught there was no fish in it) and i cant stop thinking about it, CANT WAIT FOR FRIDAY!!! Yes and now i have dicovered that there is loads of fish in there,as i saw them all on Mon!! and im sure there is some other fish that never came out!!!!!!

SSSh, keep this on the downlow, im planning a babel fishing nyt at the bottom dam, round about the 4th with some friends of mine. Gonna be so much fun.

 

Alright cheers for now guys!!!

 

WORM

 
 

Speedworm

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Both of the dams are good for carp and barbel. The bottom dam has allot more fish in it. You catch allot more fish at the bottom dam because it gets fished less than the top dam but the average size from the bottom dam is allot smaller than the top dam.

I have only ever got a hookup on a bass at the top dam on a blue spinner. Ive been there a few times and there will be 5 - 7 bass all around 1.3 kg - 2kg. Even saw two bass that only had one eye.

The last time i was there the bass were all sitting by that drain thing at the top dam. That cement slab. They had bluegill and kurper sitting inbetween them and they didnt even bother or notice them. Every lure i threw at them they would just stare at it.
 

Quinton

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i went to check the dams out today, saw 1 bass and a carp...
i fished the top dam a few months back... got one of 500g...

the thing is... are we allowed to fish the dams, due to the sign thats show no fishing??? or do we just ignore the signs...
 

Snaz

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Ek het so maand terug n mooi grote gevang by die boonste dam,gan more weer n gooi maak.Wil ook n lekker size baber vang!!
 

Brushhog

Senior Member
I say we just ignore the signs,its all unreasonable anyway,like today im working till 14:00 then thereafter im off to Doordekraal to floattube,if the gaurd tells me i need the permit then im just gonna get on my tube and fish!!!!i dnt give a damn,because that used to be a free venue and now all of a sudden you need to pay to fish there!!!We pay taxes anyway so screw them!
 

Worm

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Speedworm, i agree with you, to a certain extent, i mean yes there is much more people fishing the top dam than the bottom, but i also think there is far more fish in the bottom (carp and cats). I think there is more bluegill in the top dam than the bottom, thus the bigger fish(carp,cats and bass) are more well fed in the top dam due to the amount of food(bluegill,kurper,etc) availible to them, compared to the bottom dam, where there isnt as much smaller fish to eat. I just hope that every1 fishes on a catch an release basis there so that we can carry on fishing there 4eva!!! Besides that 1 chinese oke that catches his supper there every now and then. LOL

Quinton, firstly, if you look closely at the sign, does it say "no fishing" (a fishing rod with a line thru) or does it say "no taking fish home" (fish with a line thru). Im not sure myself as i havent really paid to much attention to the sign anyway as every Sunday that is hot, the top dam is full of people fishing, so. . .i couldnt really care less. The bottom dam has quite a few people fishing it now too, and the thing is. . .about a year a go. . .the bottom dam was hugely overgrown, but now i see they've cut it down and MADE PLENTY NICE FISHING SPOTS, so if they didnt want us to fish there anymore, why are they making it easy for us???

Besides, im always in the bush fishing, not always in the open, not because im scared to be caught but cuz i like finding spots that havent been fished around the dam.

Even if they do close it oneday, ill probably stil be fishing there, there are so many ways to get in, thanks to the biking trails

Worm
 

Worm

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Yes brushhog, will be nice to see you, ill be on the "forest" side of the dam, me and my girlfriend fishing 4 whatever bites.:::S
 

Quinton

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Worm wrote:
Quinton, firstly, if you look closely at the sign, does it say "no fishing" (a fishing rod with a line thru) or does it say "no taking fish home" (fish with a line thru). Im not sure myself as i havent really paid to much attention to the sign anyway as every Sunday that is hot, the top dam is full of people fishing, so. . .i couldnt really care less. The bottom dam has quite a few people fishing it now too, and the thing is. . .about a year a go. . .the bottom dam was hugely overgrown, but now i see they've cut it down and MADE PLENTY NICE FISHING SPOTS, so if they didnt want us to fish there anymore, why are they making it easy for us???

Besides, im always in the bush fishing, not always in the open, not because im scared to be caught but cuz i like finding spots that havent been fished around the dam.

Even if they do close it oneday, ill probably stil be fishing there, there are so many ways to get in, thanks to the biking trails

Worm
yeah worm... was only asking hey...

the thing is... the sign shows a fish with a hook and line with a red line through it...

just wanna stay on the legal side... we have already had trouble with the guard  at doordekraal... and his now missing 2 teeth...

Enjoy the fishing :welcomesea:
 

DJP

Sealiner
Fish the dam and enjoy it, this BS that we cant fish our local dams is total nonsence.

Worm, the fish you caught is most probably a banded tilapia/ Vlei kurper. I caught one there as a kid of more than 500g wich would have been an SA record but didnt realise it til I got home and checked the species info.

Ive seen many people gaff the bass in the top dam because they cant catch them legaly and get frustrated, hence the eyeless bass. Must just add that I've seen the darters/comorants injure large fish quite badly aswell.

Aparently there is tench in the top dam as well but i've yet to catch one there or see a photo, only rumours?

Please be carefull when fishing the forest side bank, some dodge people hang out there!
 

Worm

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Hey Quinz
Sowi bud, didnt mean to sound cocky or make you look stupid in any way, i dont know myself, if it a fish with hook and line, then i think it means no fishing, but it aint gonna stop me, jus because there is so much people fishing there still. Sowi if i affended you, didnt mean too. My bad

But what guard r u guys talking about??? 1 at majic forest?? Cuz i have never seen a guard there anywhere?

DJP, i agree with you!!!
Yes DJP it was, did sum research as well, it was a cape tilapia or sumsort.
Not nice too hear that about the bass, what fun do you get from gaffin it. . .

What is this tench would like to find out more about that fish. . .

Yes i am aware that it can be sketchy that is why im never alone on the other side. but yes i understand it could be quite dodgy.

Jus curious how much is it 4 a lil scale to weigh the fish that is caught, i must get 1 of those.

Well Ill tell you guys Sat, what i caught tomorow, wont be able to reply tomorow night as im workin (barman at killarney).

Cheers 4 now dudes!!!
Tight lines!
 

Quinton

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no worries worm...

the guard is at doordekraal dam. his been there for a while now.
Doesnt say a word to us when we fish there thou.

good luck with fishing tomorrow. Maybe i bump into you there.

cheers
 

Worm

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ok cool Quinz, sounds good.

Where is Doodekraal dam??
is that the larger dam to your right, before taking the left turn off which leads you to the spar and majic forest turn off?
 
Went this morning again, and the bigger fish def bite in the morning, and as it gets warmer the smaller fish come out.
Heres some pics..

First fish of the day...1,4kg
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Then got a smallish one...

Then got this puppy...1,8kg...nice fight.
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The rest of the day was full of a bunch of average size bass...
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Fun in the sun
BOOOOM
 

Marthin

Sealiner
chaps by this time you guys know that dam better than i ever have but i grew up against that hill staying with my uncle and family over holidays and more. Been there since it was just a vlei.

1. We used to never be allowed on anything floatable. This has opened a lot of new places for you guys. Right between the last parking on the eastern side and the big tree on the western side, there used to be a road with a bridge right in the middle. I cut my foot open on a bottle under that bridge many moons ago. Sometimes the carp anglers with a really big cast get stuck there. I imagine in mid summer if you can find this structure it should hold plenty bass in an otherwise flat muddy bottom.

2. There are fish in there of over 4kg

3. I know this is a bass thread but there are MASSIVE carp in there of i'd say easy 20kg.

4. There is a sunken tree stump on the right of the small island close to the 1st parking. Holds bass at this time of year. Later in the season this area holds very big suspended bass, although i could never get them to take anything and they are VERY easily spooked so you have to make LONG distance casts and bring the lure past them.

5. There used to be 3 resident otters in the dam dunno if they are still there.

6. About 20 meters from the side where the carp anglers usually sit, there is a ledge with quite a nice drop off. The bigger bass used to swim up and down this ledge and looi the bluegills and smaller fish. It looks like a flat but i walked in there to cast a carp rod and found out chop chop things were different.

7 about 15m from the south western point of the big island is definately some rocky structure but i dunno what it is, worth working....

8 Spawning time, especially when the eggs have hatched, a weightless black soft plastic frog worked along reeds on or close to the surface brought most of the fish i caught there.

I once saw a blue kurper of almost 2kg landed from the main wall.
 

DJP

Sealiner
Otters are still there but you wont see them easily during the day. The scetchy fish we use to catch with white flukes. Make a long cast and just leave it wait for your line to start moving and strike hard becasue many times the bass will swim towards you. The 4kg bass and 20 kg carp i'm certain of seen some huge fish cruze by my whilst tubing and wading.

Congrats on some nice fish BassMasterNONpro!:wfish
 
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