Billaridoo
Senior Member
I wish to participate in conservation by not polluting my TV with ESA Bass.
Hi All! After taking some time off and changing j
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Jan-Harm wrote:
I really look forward to watching ESA Bass and the saltwater programs. My wife has to stand aside when Tuesday and Thursday nights come. But I think Clips on Mnet will be better on Tuesday night from now on. Not that I have a choice because everybody in my house have Banned ESA. So that’s a vote of 3 to 1. So no more fishing shows for me L
I really look forward to watching ESA Bass and the saltwater programs. My wife has to stand aside when Tuesday and Thursday nights come. But I think Clips on Mnet will be better on Tuesday night from now on. Not that I have a choice because everybody in my house have Banned ESA. So that’s a vote of 3 to 1. So no more fishing shows for me L
Guys please do not shoot the messenger here, as I am sure you have worked out I am not a decision-maker at ESA.
My role is PR and presenting twice a week. I do my best to follow what is being said about ESA and give feedback to the relevant people here.
I personally am passionate about conservation, marine issues and try to make a difference in my spare time affecting positive change.
I will ensure that all complaints, compliments etc are seen by the correct people at ESA.
Thanks guys for taking the time to reply.
My role is PR and presenting twice a week. I do my best to follow what is being said about ESA and give feedback to the relevant people here.
I personally am passionate about conservation, marine issues and try to make a difference in my spare time affecting positive change.
I will ensure that all complaints, compliments etc are seen by the correct people at ESA.
Thanks guys for taking the time to reply.
I missed the show only saw the bit at the end where it came up with “ the godfathers of conservation†(I thought that was a bit ironic see as how Glen is Drug Lord)
But what I saw from the trailer last week it did not look like it was going to be a real winner, I think ESA lost the plot a little and it no longer about the fishing and now it about the ratings, they got a prime time spot now on super sport and they need to get people to watch.
Like I said before don’t know what glen knows about conservation or fishing but I doubt it very much, and there now way on earth I am going to listen to a single thing he has to say. (he not exactly the best role model around).
This whole stunt with Glen seems like either a PR job from his people to show he not such a bad guy or some producer had a huge drug debt to settle.
My advice for ESA forget about the glitz and glamour and get back to what made the show popular and that is fishing, bring back Howie and Rob and Xavier the people who actually knew something about fishing.
But what I saw from the trailer last week it did not look like it was going to be a real winner, I think ESA lost the plot a little and it no longer about the fishing and now it about the ratings, they got a prime time spot now on super sport and they need to get people to watch.
Like I said before don’t know what glen knows about conservation or fishing but I doubt it very much, and there now way on earth I am going to listen to a single thing he has to say. (he not exactly the best role model around).
This whole stunt with Glen seems like either a PR job from his people to show he not such a bad guy or some producer had a huge drug debt to settle.
My advice for ESA forget about the glitz and glamour and get back to what made the show popular and that is fishing, bring back Howie and Rob and Xavier the people who actually knew something about fishing.
Herman Nel
Senior Member
Hi all!
I must admit, I watched the sneak preview two weeks ago and ja...money talks and bullsh....
I did not even watch it last night, I was afraid he might suggest using "crack" instead of "spike it" on your plastics.
Sorry ESA....get normal folk to fish on the show, maybe have a father & son league survivor type show ( things and persons people can relate to ) , have a DIY section ( like the pontoon modification that appears on this site), involve more bassers...If you do a survey you will find that maybe 10% or less of the Bass anglers in SA own decent "upmarket" bassboats, the other 90% consists of Rubber ducks, canoes , dingys , pontoons ,float tubes and BANK FISHING!
Cater for all these guys and you will have a winning show , I am sure of that. Even have a site were anglers can mail you regarding for example rigging techniques etc and then discuss the mail on the show and show us how it is tied and fished!
I have held quite a few advanced bass fishing seminars in my life and I hear and see what the anglers want that attend these seminars...these same guys watch your show just to be dissapointed or misguided...
Make it interactive...share knowledge and not how expensive this reel and that boat costs....
Use these guidelines and you will have an audience for life!
Regards
Herman
I must admit, I watched the sneak preview two weeks ago and ja...money talks and bullsh....
I did not even watch it last night, I was afraid he might suggest using "crack" instead of "spike it" on your plastics.
Sorry ESA....get normal folk to fish on the show, maybe have a father & son league survivor type show ( things and persons people can relate to ) , have a DIY section ( like the pontoon modification that appears on this site), involve more bassers...If you do a survey you will find that maybe 10% or less of the Bass anglers in SA own decent "upmarket" bassboats, the other 90% consists of Rubber ducks, canoes , dingys , pontoons ,float tubes and BANK FISHING!
Cater for all these guys and you will have a winning show , I am sure of that. Even have a site were anglers can mail you regarding for example rigging techniques etc and then discuss the mail on the show and show us how it is tied and fished!
I have held quite a few advanced bass fishing seminars in my life and I hear and see what the anglers want that attend these seminars...these same guys watch your show just to be dissapointed or misguided...
Make it interactive...share knowledge and not how expensive this reel and that boat costs....
Use these guidelines and you will have an audience for life!
Regards
Herman
Billaridoo
Senior Member
Thank you O.J. for taking the time to read and convey our dismay.
The sad truth is that ESA has/had the platform to share info and better the sport, but failed to do so for some time now.
The producers made a terrible mistake by assosiating the sport with controversial personalities. Like I said in another post, they might as well invite Jackie Selebe to promote policing of illegal fishing or Schabir Shaik to promote bass health. This is not the direction any respected bass angler would want to take.
I fail to see the benefit in supporting ESA any further and judging by other posts on this and other social networks, ESA might be facing decreased support from alot more folks than just us Sealiners.
I wrote a complaint to Supersport, info@supersport.co.za. The platform viewers can use to give their opinion about programming. My opinion of ESA Bass' last show was less than kind.
The sad truth is that ESA has/had the platform to share info and better the sport, but failed to do so for some time now.
The producers made a terrible mistake by assosiating the sport with controversial personalities. Like I said in another post, they might as well invite Jackie Selebe to promote policing of illegal fishing or Schabir Shaik to promote bass health. This is not the direction any respected bass angler would want to take.
I fail to see the benefit in supporting ESA any further and judging by other posts on this and other social networks, ESA might be facing decreased support from alot more folks than just us Sealiners.
I wrote a complaint to Supersport, info@supersport.co.za. The platform viewers can use to give their opinion about programming. My opinion of ESA Bass' last show was less than kind.
Herman Nel
Senior Member
Hi OJ!
Some of the schools in SA, like Rob Ferreira in Whiteriver , Nelspruit Hoër( and I think Waterkloof ? ) has got fishing clubs at the schools!
They are mainly divided into Bass and Carp fishing and compete against their friends etc...not sure if the schools compete as yet?
Anyway, these type laaities will become the future bassers one day , and they gulp up ever bit of fishing info they can lay their hands on. ( Their moms wish they would be as passionate about schoolwork!)
Get them involved, with lets say "ESA schools Bass Clinics" or "ESA jr Competition series" ( obviously this will be Bank and small watercraft type fishing , mainly at smaller private dams )...once these oukies matriculate or graduate they will want to buy a Boat before they purchase their first car!
Also like the naked chefs' kitchen set-up and camera work on his show, show in the same way in detail in "DIY section" how to tie proper rigs,or how to make molds to make your own plastic lures, or how to cammo your gear or watercraft , or how to mold your own sinkers....etc etc..the possibilities are endless!
EVERYBODY would want to see these type of things above some anglers pulling in Bass but not showing us how?
There is really no limit to the features you can add to your shows!
regards
Herman
Some of the schools in SA, like Rob Ferreira in Whiteriver , Nelspruit Hoër( and I think Waterkloof ? ) has got fishing clubs at the schools!
They are mainly divided into Bass and Carp fishing and compete against their friends etc...not sure if the schools compete as yet?
Anyway, these type laaities will become the future bassers one day , and they gulp up ever bit of fishing info they can lay their hands on. ( Their moms wish they would be as passionate about schoolwork!)
Get them involved, with lets say "ESA schools Bass Clinics" or "ESA jr Competition series" ( obviously this will be Bank and small watercraft type fishing , mainly at smaller private dams )...once these oukies matriculate or graduate they will want to buy a Boat before they purchase their first car!
Also like the naked chefs' kitchen set-up and camera work on his show, show in the same way in detail in "DIY section" how to tie proper rigs,or how to make molds to make your own plastic lures, or how to cammo your gear or watercraft , or how to mold your own sinkers....etc etc..the possibilities are endless!
EVERYBODY would want to see these type of things above some anglers pulling in Bass but not showing us how?
There is really no limit to the features you can add to your shows!
regards
Herman
Herman your suggestions are brilliant and are in the inboxes of all the production guys. Much appreciated.
I have an update from ESA Management about last night's show:
ESA Management Response:-
Thank you all for your constructive criticism, we are always open to all feedback from our audience.
Your feedback even though varied is valued. The intention of this show was in fact to draw attention to the disgrace of our waterways. Mr Agliotti is a resident of Hartebeespoort and felt it important to highlight the plight of this particular body of water, which we agreed with as the last 3 occasions ESA has been to Harties to make a show we were unsuccessful due to the state of the dam.
Please note that this show was in no way advocating anything other than conservation.
The prime concern is not for ratings contrary to popular belief this was to draw attention to a dam in South Africa that is being destroyed. Why is the public not outraged with the individuals on the barge, that say that this is not their problem? With regards to the girls fishing in bikini’s, this was not intended to promote anything other than women in angling.
It is not often that the management at ESA gets involved on the forum however that is not to say that we do not take heed of all your useful suggestions for future shows and view all the posts.
Your suggestions are valuable to us at ESA and we thank you for your support and feedback whether negative or positive.
I have an update from ESA Management about last night's show:
ESA Management Response:-
Thank you all for your constructive criticism, we are always open to all feedback from our audience.
Your feedback even though varied is valued. The intention of this show was in fact to draw attention to the disgrace of our waterways. Mr Agliotti is a resident of Hartebeespoort and felt it important to highlight the plight of this particular body of water, which we agreed with as the last 3 occasions ESA has been to Harties to make a show we were unsuccessful due to the state of the dam.
Please note that this show was in no way advocating anything other than conservation.
The prime concern is not for ratings contrary to popular belief this was to draw attention to a dam in South Africa that is being destroyed. Why is the public not outraged with the individuals on the barge, that say that this is not their problem? With regards to the girls fishing in bikini’s, this was not intended to promote anything other than women in angling.
It is not often that the management at ESA gets involved on the forum however that is not to say that we do not take heed of all your useful suggestions for future shows and view all the posts.
Your suggestions are valuable to us at ESA and we thank you for your support and feedback whether negative or positive.
Marthin
Sealiner
Here's another option they can try.....
Dear ESA fans/clients/subscribers
ESA hereby apologise for associating the ESA Brand and indirectly people that support ESA with a known criminal and drug lord. However noble the cause that we tried to support by last night show, we regret that the impact it was supposed to have has been completely erroded by the appearance of Mr. Agliotti on our show.
We shall in future give more attention to the chosing of our guest anglers, as by the response we have received it has a massive impact on our viewer's perception of the ESA Brand
Sincere apologies
ESA Management
P.S. I still want to know how you just contact a man like this... not everyone has his contact details in their phonebook.
Dear ESA fans/clients/subscribers
ESA hereby apologise for associating the ESA Brand and indirectly people that support ESA with a known criminal and drug lord. However noble the cause that we tried to support by last night show, we regret that the impact it was supposed to have has been completely erroded by the appearance of Mr. Agliotti on our show.
We shall in future give more attention to the chosing of our guest anglers, as by the response we have received it has a massive impact on our viewer's perception of the ESA Brand
Sincere apologies
ESA Management
P.S. I still want to know how you just contact a man like this... not everyone has his contact details in their phonebook.