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richie fin

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HEY DUDES I HAVE DONE SOME TESTS ON A VERIATY OF DIFFERENT BAITS USED FOR CATCHING CARP AND DONE SOME UNDER WATER REASERCH AND FOUND THAT CARP MUCH LIKE OTHER FISH ARE MORE ATTRACTED BY SIGHT MORE THAN SCENTING.

THE CARP ARE GERERALLY ATTRACTED TO THE WHITE,PINK, LIGHT RED,AND ORANGE COLOURS AND BY USING THESE BAITS AS A SEPERATE OR A BACKING FOR ONE ANOTHER YOUR CHANCES ARE GOOD OF LANDING A FISH

I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT SCENT IS OF NO IMPERTANCE

 
 

Freaky Frikkie

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richie fin, I think this might be true if this statement is made during times of daylight. The thing is, what happens at night time, when colour does not display the same as in daylight.
Yes I do agree that colours might spark a bit of interest among fish and that they will then investigate to see whether the object is edible or not. But surely at night senses of smell and taste even vibration must be relied on.
Something I wanted to test for a while, but did not get a chance, was to see what reaction fom fish(freshwater) I will get if I placed a glowlight on the bottom amongst the feed.
We al know that the okes at see pick up fish by using some light source with the bait, but would freshwater fish react in a negative way or not?
Surely Barbel, Carp, Bass and dare I say Kurper would notice this light. But would they see it as something to avoid, or could they just perhaps think of it as fireflies amongst the reed beds? This is just something I would like to explore a bit. Even something that might give of sound, here I am thinking in the line of the sound a crab must make when moving amongst gravel under water, surely fish that might be in the mood for crab will want to investigate.
The point is that colour does play a very impotant role, but smell and sound even texture also comes into play here.
Also one thing I do believe, but others may disagree on this, is the fact that if a fish only ate a certain food over a long period of time, one will have to give it a bit of time to get used to a new source of food before it will feed on it it with confidence.
That is why I Think with regard to specimen angling, most venues took a while before carp fed freely on al these new baits like tiger nuts, different seeds and so on, and now more and more carp get cought on it. And the beutifull thing is, that baits that used to be considered as specimen baits and feed are now being used by conventional anglers as well. So at the end I strongly believe that colours, smell and texture all work together to make a good bait/feed. Also something I tought myself when I just can not get a bite at a new place.....go back to basics. I hope the other okes will tell us what they think.::hippy1:
 

Skuimkop

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Something I wanted to test for a while, but did not get a chance, was to see what reaction fom fish(freshwater) I will get if I placed a glowlight on the bottom amongst the feed.
We al know that the okes at see pick up fish by using some light source with the bait, but would freshwater fish react in a negative way or not?
Surely Barbel, Carp, Bass and dare I say Kurper would notice this light.

Freaky Frikkie goeie nuus. Jy hoef nie met iets te eksprimenteer nie daar is al so iets uit en dit werk. Punt!!! Ek gebruik dit tydens nag sessies en vang beter as my pen maats wat dit nie gebruik nie. Die goed word Niteglow sweetcorn, Niteglow Eternal Boilies, Niteglow Grubs (Maggots) & Fluoroglow Maize genoem. Dis bietjie pricey omdat ek dit laat invoer (invoer belasting) maar verseker die moeite werd. Ek gaan hoeka die maand vir my die Maize, grubs en Boilies ook aanskaf na ek eers met die sweetcorn ge-eksprimenteer het. Ek heg die pics aan en so ook die beskrywing van die Niteglow goodies. 




Buoyant glowing imitation sweetcorn for use at night or in low light conditions. Unflavoured. Pack of 8. Non toxic.

  • Glows for up to 8 hours
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  • Can be used on its own or with real bait such as boilies, to act as a visual attractor [/*]
  • Use to create a popped up or critically balanced bait[/*]

Tests have proven that blue/green light is most visible to carp in low light conditions. Niteglow Corn contains a high grade luminous additive giving a glow time of up to 8 hours when fully charged. Charge the corn for approximately 1-2 minutes, slowly rotating it in the beam to ensure all areas are fully charged. Charge times will vary depending on the type of torch being used. Enterprise Tackle supply a UV Torch that is sold separately, or with the Niteglow Corn UV Torch Kit, for charging within 15 seconds.

After the initial very bright glow the corn will continue to glow for several hours at a reduced glow. Recharge after 4-5 hours to maintain a good glow level.

In the interests of fish welfare, artificial baits should be securely attached to a hair rig.
Jy kan dit by The Tackle Box bestel. Volg net die link:  http://www.tacklebox.co.uk/tempting-em/bait/imitation-bait/enterprise-tackle-fluoroglow-maize.html
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Skuimkop

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Niteglow Corn UV Torch Kit.

Hier kry jy die UV torch saam waarmee jy die goed 'charge' soos hulle sê. Ek los hulle ook in die son as ek hulle die aand gaan gebruik om lekker gepiets te word deur die son se UV. Hulle charge dan net soveel makliker en hou ook vir my beter.
 

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Skuimkop

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Niteglow Eternal Boilies 12mm and 15mm
 

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Skuimkop

Sealiner
Ek gebruik dit altyd saam met gewone baits/geure en het dit nog nie in sulke fyn detail getoets om altwee stokke presies dieselfde te laai (geur en aas) en op dieselfde afstand te cast nie. Maar ek het gevind dat hulle by verre deur die nag (veral donkermaan) meer op die baits byt wat die niteglow outjies op het. Soveel so dat ek dit nie nodig gevind het om dit verder te toets nie.
 

Freaky Frikkie

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My @#$%$, wow, dis nou regtig flippen nice.....lol wou mos seg dat ons medics nie te stupid kan wees nie....lol.
Ek is regtig beindruk, eerstens dat my idee toe nou nie so veregaande is as wat ek gedink het nie en tweedens dat jy altyd op die mees interesante goed afkom.
Ek moet seg dat mense soos jy altyd n forum die moeite werd maak, dankie vir al die inligting.
Skuimkop skuimkop jy is ons man, as jy nie kan wie sal dan!!!!:beer:beer:beer:beer:beer:woohoo:woohoo:woohoo:woohoo:woohoo::tclaph::tclaph::tclaph
 

Skuimkop

Sealiner
As jy by Tackle Box bestel maak seker jy bestel ook jou gratis katalogus. Jy gaan groot SKRIK as jy sien wat alles al daar buite is en dan het ons nog nie eens van dit gehoor hier in SA nie. Jy kan ook die katalogus bestel en ek dink dit is so iets soos R30 - R40. Jy betaal nie belasting nie want dit kom deur die posbus. Soos Nike so logo sê: JUST DO IT. hehehe 
 

Skuimkop

Sealiner
Japie ek het nog nie die niteglow Maize (maar wel die niteglow sweetcorn) nie maar wel die boyant maize. Die twee (niteglow & boyant maize) is dieselfde grootte en is grootter as die sweetcorn. Ek sal aanbeveel om dadelik vir die maize te gaan want ek glo darem nie jy gaan tempo hengel deur die aand nie. lol. Anyway die sweetcorn outjies werk uitstekend en ek gebruik dit altyd saam met ander bait op die hair of op die hoek. Dis gemaak van 'n 'dense foam' en sit lekker styf op altwee. Ek het nog nooit een verloor wat afgebyt of afgekom het nie.

Ps: Hulle noem dit sweetcorn maar dis net om die grootte aan te dui en dit is nie die geur nie. Jy kan natuurlik die 'corn' geur na smaak.
 

richie fin

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what the hell !!!!! glowing bait?
the experrement we made was as such.
we took plain floaties and flavoured them in different flavours while keeping them all blue which is knowen as a neutral colour as far as the angeling trait is concerned.
and used them all with no ground feed and got verry little result.
the flavours that the fish bit on was marked and would be used on a later stage.
then we made floaties with a veriaty of colour and and no flavours and tried them in exactley the same way and got a heuge response to the mentioned above colours and teh rest wer disgarded.
now !!!!!!!!! comes the flavour and colour.
we flavoured each mensioned floatie with 9 different flavoures which we had the best responce out of 53 flavours and did the same tests.
we had a response on all 9 flavours of all colours?????
now how do we determen which flavour fish prefure.
 

richie fin

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ps this test was done only at day time and now that you bring it to our attention we will try the same at night time dude
 

Rav

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Dude

Just wanted to let you know tests done by angling experts all around the world suggest that carp don't genrally go for any particular color or taste other wise there would be a perfect carp bait on the shelf which caught carp anywhere in the world at any time day or night in any season and any moon phase etc. light refracts and reflects all over world differently due to the angle of the earth so thats why color make no difference . Plus when u fish and put a dip on its meant to peak the carps interest from a long way away (where they can't see it) thats why a caller, then theres your taker, evr wonder why every other dip plus FX on the bol simple FX s the taker figure out why ????

Bud best take your dips and play with them, taste them, drop them in bowl of water watch the reaction and smell after a while, do it in luke warm and ice cold conditions promise you now... you'll get rid f 50% of your dips

Also most of the sucessful older anglers keep it all clean, no floaties jus plain sweet white dough no floro

makes u wonder doesnt it
 

Freaky Frikkie

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To be honoust, We al know carp constantly patrol in order to look for food, when found they will eat and move on, almost like a herd of cattle.
So basicly I think by using colours,flavours and the rest we only draw their attention so they would have a look to see if it is edible or not.
This would explain why to much flavour or colour would put them of.
As a carp gets older he starts to asociate certain events, flavours, colours or even set ups with danger and therefore becomes more wary. This can be seen with the big carp in most waters.
Vice versa carp will also start to asociate certain flavours, colours with food.
So at the end of the day no one could ever say exactly what bait, flavour or colour carp would go for, al we have is basic guidelines we need to play with.
A while back the Univerity of Potchefstroom did some research on bait and even went to some angling competitions where they gave some of the anglers samples to test. As far as I know most anglers reported good results with the amount of fish they cought.
If the study is still ongoing Im not sure about.

Maybe if some of the okes have cotact with the said project they could tell us whats going on.
For starters I would like to know what makes this bait different from others.
 

Rav

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True all of that bout carp feeding habits,

something i googled

Water can dissolve many different substances, giving it varying tastes and odors. Humans and other animals have developed senses which (more or less) enable them to evaluate for example concentrates. Humans also tend to prefer cold water to lukewarm water since cold water is likely to contain fewer microbes. Animals on the hand are a different case. Pure H2O is tasteless and odorless. The advertised purity of spring and mineral water refers to absence of toxins, pollutants and microbes.(from wikipedia)I read and i think it is interesting.

But in any case things like above of water varies at different dams during the seasons and inevitably changes bait selections. Diffrent waters differing conditions therefore differing tastes so differing dips.   
 

richie fin

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dont warry about me testing theese dips,sprays,floaties ext as i already have and still do on a daily basis and as for your remark about throwing half away or the outopies liking to do things the old way or keeping things clean i do agree with you as so many of the dips are toxic and i state that if you could drink a whole bottle without going to hospital then it is good for carp or any fish. however most people dont know this and even most professional angelers dont know.

ill give you thumbs up for your statement dude:wfish
 
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