Hello, I would like to ask if any on

Yes we have fished it at night before, and on all the nights we landed some monsters on top water again all against the bank with the exception of one that grabbed a lure deadsticked off the bottom.

Thanx, the lures' colours aren't there yet, and I've dipped them to seal in the clolours which resulted in a huge lost of detail (structural, scales, gillplates, fins etc.) but I'm already experimenting with a diffirent type of colouring agent and manner in which to apply it. soon very soon they'll look and behave exactly like their live models.
 

Herman Nel

Senior Member
 

Ok , so you want to go deep ...
 

Here is a few pointers :

1. Try using deep diving crankbaits like the Norman DD range or the the Mann's RSC , Chartreuse ( Flurocent yellow ) is usually a winner

2. Use thinner line, lower diameter lines cuts trough water quicker and the Crankbaits reach their max depths faster.

Just make sure that there is not lots of snags, thin braid could work is such a scenario

3. Use heavy 3/4 oz Spinnerbaits and Football Jigs. Making the Jigs bulkier by adding a brush hog as a trailer is a good option,but it will sink a bit slower.

4. Try bottom hopping a Fluke on a dropshot rig ( not the ESA version of dropshot...) towards you, White is a good colour at 20ft!

( see attached pic )

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 5.Try getting some bottom walkers if you dont have deep divers...
 
 
 
 
 

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Herman Nel

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Reverse hooking a Fluke makes it dive down faster nose first. Once it hits the bottom,lift the rod tip 5 cm and drop...repeat this a few times,it looks like a baitfish feeding on the bottom!
 

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Herman Nel

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ok,here is a pic of them bottom walkers...

 

Regards

 

Herman


Bottomwalkers
Attach your mainline to the small loop in the bend ( same way as a spinnerbait ) and attach a piece of mono of about 1 to 1,5  metres to the split ring at the top of the "arm".
This rig will make a shallow running crankbait ( like the Rapala X-Rap Slashbait 4-6 ft ) swim just above the bottom on any depth!
The way the bottom walker works you can also attach floating soft plastic baits to get them down to the depths!











 
 

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Herman Nel

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Just one more thing...I am busy with a new concept rig, I am naming it the "BUNGEE FLUKE RIG" will posts some pics tomorrow!

Regards

 

Herman
 

Obsessed

New member
Hi Herman.

Awesome tips !

Een vraag - hoekom sit jy die hoek verkeerd om in die fluke - sal dit nie hinder wanneer die vis byt nie (hoeksteel & lyn in sy bek ?)  Dit is n baie netjies presentation maar baie ongewoon ?

 
 

Obsessed

New member
Hi Herman.

Jou "Herminator' lure lyk great !!!

Ek reken een met n rooi onderkant kan wonders doen waar ek hengel !

 
 

basslover

Senior Member
Here is my PB out of a quarry!!also Swimbait...Swimbaits works really well in quarries.
 

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Cpt. Hook

Sealiner
Koos Bass wrote:
Hello,

I would like to ask if any one knows how to hunt big bass in  a small body of water.

I know if it was easy, every one would have 4KB PB's, but a guide line would help. 

 There is a small quarry near me in Nigel and i have seen BIG bass swimming there but  with the rain the level has gone up about 800mm so i guess that there are new "preffered" holding spots for them. we still see the rats between surface and about 18" deep. but the  larger ones  must have moved.

the dam does not offer alot of cover. some steep ledges going down in about 2.5m stepps and then some grass in about 4 feet of water, not much other vegetation just some reeds along the one  bank.

Would they rather go to the deep water near the ledges that drops vertical or into the shallow grass.

Thanks

 

Just do not do what I did.

I did a google search for Big Bass, but forgot the B in Bass, at the same time my wife came in as google displayed it's results.^^..^^..^^..
 

Cpt. Hook

Sealiner
Herman Nel wrote:
ok,here is a pic of them bottom walkers...

 

Regards

 

Herman


Bottomwalkers
Attach your mainline to the small loop in the bend ( same way as a spinnerbait ) and attach a piece of mono of about 1 to 1,5  metres to the split ring at the top of the "arm".
This rig will make a shallow running crankbait ( like the Rapala X-Rap Slashbait 4-6 ft ) swim just above the bottom on any depth!
The way the bottom walker works you can also attach floating soft plastic baits to get them down to the depths!











 
Very COOL, where do you get these. I want.::S
 

Koos Bass

Member
Herman se fluke lyk snaaks maar maak sin want soos ek dit het slaan 'n bass amper altyd die "KOP" van 'n lure. dit is net die rotte wat 'n bait jaag en dan in die gat byt. ek het die laaste tyd baie met 'n husky jerk en 'n paar ander harde baits gevang en als bo 500g het op die voorste hoek gevat en meeste van die sub 500g het eers gejaag en toe op die agter hoek gebyt.

Ek is dalk heel van die pad af maar dit is maar net wat ek sien by die dam.

Cool stuff julle nou het ek weer meer as net 'n dag se trial en error by die dam.

en vir die fishing adventure dude ,better luck with the keyboard next time you do a ASS search.

Thanks
 

Cpt. Hook

Sealiner
Loams wrote:
Fishing Adventures wrote:
Koos Bass wrote:
..................

 

Just do not do what I did.

I did a google search for Big Bass, but forgot the B in Bass, at the same time my wife came in as google displayed it's results.^^..^^..^^..
Exactly how did you get yourself out of that one?? LMFAO!!
At 1st I was in deep ... but then I explained that I posted a UTube video called Big Bass and I was seeing how it was ranking in the search engines, it was a tough one and I got the "look" but she bought it. Actually if you see what google spat out there I am surprised, as there was some nasty stuff. Now it is funny looking back, but on the day.......phew
 
Fishing Adventures wrote:
Loams wrote:
Fishing Adventures wrote:
Koos Bass wrote:
..................

 

Just do not do what I did.

I did a google search for Big Bass, but forgot the B in Bass, at the same time my wife came in as google displayed it's results.^^..^^..^^..
Exactly how did you get yourself out of that one?? LMFAO!!
At 1st I was in deep ... but then I explained that I posted a UTube video called Big Bass and I was seeing how it was ranking in the search engines, it was a tough one and I got the "look" but she bought it. Actually if you see what google spat out there I am surprised, as there was some nasty stuff. Now it is funny looking back, but on the day.......phew
R U Sure the B was left out by mistake? ::S::S::S Doesn't really matter thou, you got away with it and lived to tell the tale, even if it wasn't a mistake it's really funny, and either way I bet you were lank worried for a moment or two.....:fbash
 
@herman: some cool ideas, unconventional but sensible and most deffinately worth a try, especially the bottom walker idea, it almost replaces the need for dropshotting. How bad is the hookups (snags) on the weight part of the rig?
 
Another Q herman, the weight on the reversed fluke rig, do you just jam that into the nose of the fluke (seemed like it and that is the only way that the rig as you explained would make sense)?
 

Herman Nel

Senior Member
Hi Guys!


Here is 2 other " go to's" for deep water I have recently used at Driekoppies with great results!

Black & Blue Tubebait with matching skirt on a White weedless swimming jighead 3/4 oz.
 

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Herman Nel

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Answers to some questions:

Obsessed - Die hoek pla glad nie in "reverse" nie en die hook-ups is baie goed!

Fishing adventures - I make the bottomwalkers myself,you can get some via my website ( that appears on my profile )

Loams - "ongewoon" inderdaad...remember you are dealing with one of the most "controversial" bass anglers in SA, or so I hear...hehehe

Little green fish - Because the arms are bent like the arms on a spinnerbait it shields and bounces over structure and snags quite good, and it always stands upright in the water.

The weight on the reversed fluke is a long splitshot used in float fishing, you just force it in there...you can also use a thick roofing nail cut down to 2 cm or take some thick soldering wire of about 4 cm long, wrap it around a loose bicycle spoke or so, take it off ( it will now look like a lead spiral ) and just screw it into the head.

If you read my new thread on the "BUNGEE RIG" you can also hook one of those float stops onto the hook near the eye to prevent the fluke from slipping a bit!

regards

Herman Nel
 
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