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Def-e-nition

Sealiner
wow .
Darius that's very sharp of you . MN Owes the diver lunch .

Man , i Can't tell you how it bothers me when it burns off , and Even darius with his loud mouth "whaling" and snorting on the bricks about it pales in significance when you see the result of our actions .

The only critiscm i could level was to the first poster who mentioned that these animals do not receive much thought from humans . We do actually care for them or This vid wouldn't have struck such a chord .
Yowzers . I guess there are some Merits , then , for "Selfish Cape " to ban slides in comps .
And i was about to ask them to re-think the situation and vote them in again .Eish .

Perhaps for Recreational Angling purposes hook Manuf/ should Look into degradeable hooks ?I'm all for us hooking into these fish man , but I never Really gave the result of an all-too-frequent line-snapping , much thought .

Time to go sit and reflect .

That was a very kind gesture from the diver .Not seen often enough in us humans though , sadly .
 

kraken

Senior Member
There is a very big part of me which feels that sliding should be outlawed completely in much the same way as jigging fish with a bare hook has been for years.

There are just too many things that can go wrong and do. Add to this the assholes who hide behind their sliding and knowingly target Great Whites and it can't be denied that there exists a very strong argument in favour of banning the things.

BUT!!!! And here I become the ultimate hypocrite, we have a league at Struisbaai on saturday and in order to be competative, you will probably find me later in the day with a slide out. Hopefully not though........but you never know!
 

Mouldz

Sealiner
I think we are harping to much about sharks ,how many edibles are swimming around with hooks and nylon traces dangling from their mouths?,nylon does no degrade in water,thats why forums like this are useful to educate the anglers as to the right tackle to use ,catching fish on ultra light tackle to obtain some record or other is imo a no no ,a length of nylon trace wrapped around a fish can cause severe injury.
 

Def-e-nition

Sealiner
kraken wrote:
There is a very big part of me which feels that sliding should be outlawed completely in much the same way as jigging fish with a bare hook has been for years.

There are just too many things that can go wrong and do. Add to this the assholes who hide behind their sliding and knowingly target Great Whites and it can't be denied that there exists a very strong argument in favour of banning the things.

BUT!!!! And here I become the ultimate hypocrite, we have a league at Struisbaai on saturday and in order to be competative, you will probably find me later in the day with a slide out. Hopefully not though........but you never know!

Absolutely .

couldn't agree more Kraken .!
 

kopstamp

Sealiner
valid point mouldie.

The big plus is that atleast most people are aware they are doing damage, it is the other half that dont care.

Example: Was fishing something good on monday, shook my arms off to get the bait out, another fellow arrives shakes for 2min, seriously, and tells me his slide is down.

Think education also needs to be done.

Will chat to MCM guy and see If they are willing to assist in the idea.
 

Mouldz

Sealiner
kopstamp wrote:
valid point mouldie.

The big plus is that atleast most people are aware they are doing damage, it is the other half that dont care.

Example: Was fishing something good on monday, shook my arms off to get the bait out, another fellow arrives shakes for 2min, seriously, and tells me his slide is down.

Think education also needs to be done.

Will chat to MCM guy and see If they are willing to assist in the idea.

In my humble opinion i would like to see the following
. No line specification when applying records ,i.e. the lighter the line the better the record

.The standard three way trace banned as the fish can be left with a trace and sinker in its mouth i.e.all traces should allow the sinker to fall free if the line parts at the swivel

.mandatory use of a leader line
 

kraken

Senior Member
MOULDIE wrote:
I think we are harping to much about sharks ,how many edibles are swimming around with hooks and nylon traces dangling from their mouths?,nylon does no degrade in water,thats why forums like this are useful to educate the anglers as to the right tackle to use ,catching fish on ultra light tackle to obtain some record or other is imo a no no ,a length of nylon trace wrapped around a fish can cause severe injury.

Good point. An incident that happened during my recent trip to De Hoop brought up an interesting point with regard to the infamous gut hooked or gill hooked fish that so many regard as a golden oppurtunity to kill.

A kob was recaptured which had been tagged some months previously and due to the hook being too far down its throat to remove, the trace was cut and the fish released with hook and all after having been tagged. It survived, grew, and of the hook there was no sign.

I think the problem we face with shark fishing however is the failure rate of the tackle being used. This I believe to be far more of an issue than with normal edible fishing. Sharks do not have the same capacity to reproduce as boney fish and this then puts them at even more of a disadvantage.

 
 

Marthin

Sealiner
mouldie why the leader line? if the line does snap it usually is at the leader connection. except sliding this would mean on a normal running trace the fish now has to contend with 9 metres of .90 and up for ineds and .60 and up for eds where if no leader is fished, the line would usually snap at the mainline to trace connection, leaving him with only the trace to contend with....
 

Mouldz

Sealiner
Marthin wrote:
mouldie why the leader line? if the line does snap it usually is at the leader connection. except sliding this would mean on a normal running trace the fish now has to contend with 9 metres of .90 and up for ineds and .60 and up for eds where if no leader is fished, the line would usually snap at the mainline to trace connection, leaving him with only the trace to contend with....
I think a leader helps prevent cut offs on the rocks etc,often we see the holiday maker with a okuma combo on the pier and hooks a small fish only to have his line cut off on the boulders ,only my 2cents
 

Marthin

Sealiner
i think the leader does help a lot to get fish out. I do think a 1.8mm leader does pose a significant risk to a fish if it has to drag it around with him, especially if it's a smaller smooth hound or the likes after you got stuck... he's never going to break that off.
 

shuraj

Sealiner
The leader is mainly there to handle the weight of the sinker when casting and  when landing the fish.

 

Just my 2c

 
 

Mouldz

Sealiner
shuraj wrote:
The leader is mainly there to handle the weight of the sinker when casting and  when landing the fish.

 

Just my 2c

 

"Objection your honour"LOL ,leader is also to prevent cut offs on mussels ,rocks etc ,also to grab on when handling beeg feeesh
 
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