Hair rig - Conventional Carp Angling

Duckitt

New member
Will a hair rig work for conventional carp angling? Will it be sucsessful if u use a rietvlei rig and change the hook links to a hair?
 

MarvelousMark

Senior Member
I have tried a hair rig on a rietvlei trace set up and it tends to get hooked up and tangles very easily with the two hooks

But yes you can use this set up to good effect, but just use a single bottom hook below your swivel and a bom above the swivel like a baby shoes trace but with only one hook (hair rig) and use coated hook link as it wont tangle as easily.:)
 

Gertus

Senior Member
try putting both hooks in the ball when you cast and just letting the hookbait be exposed.. stops tangles and puts the bait close to the ball...
 

Duckitt

New member
does this rig work well or would you recommend using a normal rietvlei rig. I just think with a hair u can put more bait on
 

Gertus

Senior Member
I am morally objected to nakid hook fishing but that is another debate for another day.. i often put doun on both hooks on a rietvlei and then stich the point or the shaft in the feedball. more bait on the rig.. sure if you are going for big fish.. one of the ideas of the hair rig and boilie/tigernuts is to ensure that only big fish can get that in their mouths.. so if you use the hair rig and stick normal milies on .. it means that small carp can pich that up too..

As the windhoek add goes.. "real men dont fish nakid hooks Mitch.. remember Gods watching you.. "
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Enigma

Moderator
For a session without feeding your target fish are going to be smaller as the right feeding is needed to attract and hold bigger fish.

Using a hair can be done but you will certainly catch a lot less fish than if you didn't.

I would recommend a full specimen approach when using specimen rigs because they are designed to go together.
 

pumamangp

Senior Member
i tend to agree with Enigma. specimen rigs go better with a specimen approach/set up. its one thing hooking a big fish and another thing all together to land it, care for it and release it safely. specimen is not just about catching big fish, its about fish care/safety and a lot of thought/planning/work and care gets put into every session.

small fish can still eat your boilie/tigernut, even barbel can eat it

if you are fishing conventional then just think of diff ways to present your bait, using the same rig/rigs as you normaly do.
 

Vicb

New member
Not having much fishing experience, I have messed around with a couple of variations of bait presentations. Only recently was I succesful using a hair rig, the carp weren't moerse big, about 3kg's, but it worked nontheless.

I made a rietvlei trace with two hair rigs each fitted with 12mm boilies. I stuffed half a "Coryx" effervenscent tablet into the cage & packed bom around it. This worked everytime I tried & produced bigger carp than the other rods close by which were loaded with floaties, mielies etc.

 
 

Duckitt

New member
Well to be hounest I've tried it once also with a 12 mm boilie and it produced a 4.5kg carp 5min after I dropped the line.

that is why I asked. It worked well once for me  but maybe its not the right thing to do(have to keep the safety of the fish in mind) don't want to catch a monster on a rig thats not desighned to land it safely.
 

Coza

New member
Vicb wrote:
I made a rietvlei trace with two hair rigs each fitted with 12mm boilies. I stuffed half a "Coryx" effervenscent tablet into the cage & packed bom around it. This worked everytime I tried & produced bigger carp than the other rods close by which were loaded with floaties, mielies etc.

 

Coryx Effervescent Tablets? That is hectic!

It’s a schedule-2 (over the counter) pain tablet containing Pseudoephendrine and LOTS of Aspirin as the active ingredient. On the upside it also has some vitamin C…
Sounds like it works and you woun’t catch a Carp with a cold or a headache.
 

Coza

New member
I also like to put a hair rig on one of my rods every now and again using a rietvlei and just try and catch anything on a boilie or tiger nut. In an over night session without a decent feeding spot I’m lucky to catch a single fish on that rod and never something spectacular… so far. (And never ever on a tiger nut before!)

I refuse to believe that so few Carps can be interested in my home made sweet & sour (soya sauce with pineapple) mussel boilies. I mean my dogs love them. (Someone cheerfully pointed out that they also lick their own behinds…)

If you just want a nice conventional session, you need to stick to the conventional ways. (Like a sweet and sour mussel ball dip… hmmmm should try that.)
 

pumamangp

Senior Member
guys if you going to fish with boilies or tigernuts then you need to have them in your feed, no use feeding supercast etc and having a boilie or tigernut on the hook.

whatever your hook bait is should be in your ground feed (and not just one or two, a whole lot)
 

Gertus

Senior Member
I love fishing.. it never stays the same as fishermen are always looking for ways to outsmart an animal which acts on instinct with a 3second memory..
 

Vicb

New member
I'm gonna give it another bash with the same rig on Sunday & see if it will work. I have no more Coryx so I'll use Cal-C-Vita this time & add some nuts to my feed with a bigger boilie as well. Will let you know if I had any success on Monday.
 

Duckitt

New member
I still don't know if you'll catch more fish or bigger fish if you for example put 3 mielies on a hair (rietvlei style) or 1 mielie on a normal Rietvlei Rig.

 
 
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Guest

Guest
Enigma wrote:
For a session without feeding your target fish are going to be smaller as the right feeding is needed to attract and hold bigger fish.

Using a hair can be done but you will certainly catch a lot less fish than if you didn't.

I would recommend a full specimen approach when using specimen rigs because they are designed to go together.
I have to agree with Enigma - if your target is bigger go specimen approach - it is not just what is on the end of the line but the entire approach that deliver bigger fish.
 

MadCarper

Sealiner
Duckitt, I have to agree with Enigma and Jacques. A hair rig is no guarantee that you'll catch bigger fish, its only part of the puzzle. It will give you fish, but I doubt more fish than using your normal rigs.:sha
 

Duckitt

New member
I understand that you say a hair rig is only part of the puzzle. I enjoy both speciman and conventional angling and when I target big fish I do it the right way(rigs, feeding my target fish,bait ect.) but my original question was from conventional anglings' point of view. Maybe I should change my question.

In conventional angling, when going for weight and not quantity, do you guys think smaller fish will ignore a bigger bait, example 3 mielies on a hair( modified rietvlei) instead of 1 mielie on a hook?

 
 
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