Got my First Ray Today

Firkin

New member
Hi guys, I recently started R&S, and even more recently sliding baits out(today was second day).

 

I went to Tinley Manor this morning and picked up a ray, I had a few problems though, hence no photo's.

 

First I almost crapped myself when the rod started singing, happy days, squid stuffed with sard guts and a sard head, had only been in the water 20 min. Trying to slow the thing down was something else, the power was truly amazing(I'm using a Penn 14' powerstick HT -6-8oz and Torium 30).

 

Anyway I have no idea how long it took to fight it to the rocks, I remeber fun, cigarrettes and falling on my ass trying to get down from the high rocks to the waters edge.

 

That's when my problems started, how the frik do you get something that size out of the water safely and humanely. I tried lifting/dragging it with rod, but it was too big, I tried grabbing the leader to drag it out when fortunately a meneer of a wave helped partially washed the ray up onto the rocks and almost drown me at the same time. 

 

Anyway it washed back into the water and about 30 sec later the rocks chowed my line and he was gone. I don't even know what it was, too much adrenaline, I think it was light brown, definately had a white underside, and wing to wing must have been between 500-750mm, it also had a long(I think) stingy thingy for a ass.

 

So I guess my questions are, how do you land these, or sharks or even the garrick I want to catch this year, on rocks without hurting it, or almost getting washed into the sea(like me today).

 

And are the ray's dangerous, I know what happened to Steve Irwin, how do you hold them, or move them, Ive seen photos on Sealine of guys holding smaller ones by their eyes??? 

 

But ja, what an awesome day, Ive been buzzing all day because of it, and what a fantastic fight it put up. Just a little miffed I couldnt get a pic and send him on its way.

 

I will definately be targeting ray's and sharks, the fight is just too good, and hopefully next time I will be a little more prepared for the bite/hookup, the fight, and safely landing and releasing it.

 

Seriously, afterwards I was shaking like a crack addict it was the awesome. A bit of help would be appreciated.

 

Cheers
 

Homie

Sealiner
Firstly,
:welcomesea:

And congrats on the catch !!!

Im no expert, and still have to catch a ray bigger than about 60cm, so here goes.

Dont ever turn a Ray on its back, the internal organs will be damaged.
Dont put your fingers into the spiricles (Holes on the top of the skate !)

The best place to handle them, is just in front of the mouth. You can hold them quite firmly there. Just be careful not to put your fingers into their moiths, those pavement teeh can hurt !

Be careful of the sting !!!! If you do get stung, get medical help, but in the interim, put the stung part in as hot water as you can bear !

Hope this helps, Im sure the experts will offer more insight !

Tight Lines !!!
 

Glenn

Sealiner
Anyway it washed back into the water and about 30 sec later the rocks chowed my line and he was gone. I don't even know what it was, too much adrenaline, I think it was light brown, definately had a white underside, and wing to wing must have been between 500-750mm, it also had a long(I think) stingy thingy for a ass.
 

:welk1 Aboard!! Hope you enjoy it like we all do.

Did your ray look like this one ??????????
 

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aquadementia

Sealiner
Hey Glenn, nice ribbontail!! You catch?

Firkin congrats on your first fish on slide :)
Sounds like you hooked either a Diamond Butterfly Ray or a Brown Stingray. There are no skates in KZN rock and surf.

Best is to lift them with a wave. As you said you were super stoked and excited. Best is to pre-plan where you are going to land the fish. If the fish is too big to guide then brute force is your only option (thick leaders help here). Just dont go near the tail end and it shouldnt be a problem.
 

Kumz

Sealiner
aquadementia wrote:
 Best is to lift them with a wave. As you said you were super stoked and excited. Best is to pre-plan where you are going to land the fish. If the fish is too big to guide then brute force is your only option (thick leaders help here). Just dont go near the tail end and it shouldnt be a problem.

Aqua  is right on the $$$ here  !!!
:wfish
 
 

action man

Senior Member
dont worry firk we all start somewhere hey!
you just need to gain a little more experinece and you should be fine...can maybe organise to take you fishing one day and help you out, tinley is a tricky spot for newb's to land fish! if you wana fish there often i can help you out know that area well and landed some good fish there
 

Glenn

Sealiner
aquadementia wrote:
Hey Glenn, nice ribbontail!! You catch?
Yes.. Amanzimtoti - November 2008 on a boat .. That was the small one Chris I caught.. This is the BIG one.. I would rather catch these from the beach.. I was using a KP Reel.. I will NEVER use one again.. All where caught on a live mackerel, bottom fishing.
 

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Glenn

Sealiner
aquadementia wrote:
cool man

why dont you dig the kps? ;)
Where they a mission to get up?

A mission an a half Chris... I got 4 ray's in total.. The biggest was a 'HoneyComb' of 100kg.. That's what they all guessed it at! Guess what! ?? .. I seemed to be the ONLY catching the bloody thing's.. :lol:1

I don't 'dig' the KP Reel as when I feel the fish run again.. it seem's uncomfortable to hold and not natural?? I also like to hear the reel 'scream' so to speak.. 'Multiplier reel' anyday!! ::S

Any more quesiton's?? Please PM me and we can discuss further.. I feel A HI - JACK in process here ...
 

aquadementia

Sealiner
lol na thats all for now thanks..

its not often here (JBay) that large flatfish are caught out to sea, so getting a bunch seems strange to me. Well done!!
 
try to look for a drain or gully where you can bring it in, the best thing to do if you dont want to use a gaff is to use the water to your advantge and bring it in with the water.check how im holding my diamond ray on my avatar.

hope this helps mate!
 

Firkin

New member
Thanks guys, some really sound advise. I think the main thing I need is too plan everything ahead of time as once the action is on it's pretty difficult to fight the fish, decide what to do and move about on the rocks.

Glenn, I'm not sure if it looked like that, I don't think it was as spotty, but I'm sure it was a tan/brownish colour, but then I was trying to haul the thing out of the water while trying not to get washed off the rocks. And all the time so hyped i don't think I was thinking straight.

Think I need to hook up with some of you experienced okes, so please let me know when you are going out and if I can join.

Cheers guys
 

Glenn

Sealiner
Firkin wrote:
Think I need to hook up with some of you experienced okes, so please let me know when you are going out and if I can join.

Cheers guys
I would say if you need'd help for fishing for ray's etc.. Then if you where in the Jeffreys Bay area then aquadementia Would be your best bet! Seeing that your not and your in our area *Durban* Then your best bet would be to *PM* JJ Pienaar as he know's best of this 'particular species'

I'm only new 2year's to South African fishing and will be back in 'Durban' late January for 8 week's this time.. If your still fishing then I might hook up with you guy's.

Hope this help's you .

Glenn -
 

aquadementia

Sealiner
cant say I disagree with Glenn on that one ;) lol
I'm sure there are some sealiners who can show you the ropes in person, were cool like that

Firkin do yourself a favour and pick up a copy of this months ESA magazine, there is a very good article regarding the brown stingray in there. One glance and you will know if that was the fish you caught, which i suspect it was
 

Hound

New member
The tinley area has been producing the odd Daimond, Brown, and blue ray. Taking the size into account I dont think ity is a diamond as they have been averaging about 30kg's at the moment. Best guess is a brown or blue. Due to the longer tail and the stronger fight, I would sugest it is a brown in the 10 kg range.

A ray that size can be safley landed along most of that rock, but there is a rocky bay on the left which is a much better place to try and land your fish instead of trying to drag it up the higher rocks!
 
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