Gooi leaderlyn af

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WolfWood

New member
Hi

Ek sit met n proebleem waar ek heeltyd my leader lyn afgooi

Ek het Sensation se Finesse karp stokke wat ek pair met Conoflex CBF 400 katrolle. Vir lyn het ek nou Double x hi abrasion 5pond lyn met Sensation se pro series leader lyn 25pond maar ek bly dit leaderlyn afgooi. Dis net snap en af is hy.

Is my katrolle dalk te vol want ek het net laas week die lyn opgesit of is die dikte van die leaderlyn teen oor die hooflyn dalk verkeerd?
Ek gebruik ook meestal net M0 gewigte so dis nie dat ek olifante gooi nie soo dis nie te swaar nie maar dit bly afbreek al gooi ek nie hard nie.

Kan dit dalk my gooi aksie wees waar dit verkeerd loop, ek proebeer darm maar het nie regtig iemand wat my kan tou wysmaak nie.
 
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Arlu Vorster

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Halo Wolf

Daar is n paar goed wat ek kan voorstel jy doen!


1) Watse tipe knoop gebruik jy om die leader en lyn te heg

2) Die leader lyn en lyn kombinasie is reg, daar is nie fout nie, ek stel voor indien jy back to back figure 8 gebruik dat jy die hooflyn dubbel; fou en dan dit knoop met die leader lyn, maak seker dat die lyn goed nat is voor jy dit styf trek!
3) Gooi tegniek maak n verskil maar as jy nie hard gooi nie en dit breek nogsteeds, dan is dit op die lyn of knoop sou ek se!
4) Maak seker jy het so 3 tot 4 draai leader op die katrol as jy gooi

Hoop dit help
 
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Fishpaste

Sealiner
Ek is glad nie n fan van leader lyn nie...kyk ek vang nie komps nie so ek verkies n dukker lyn reg deur... 0.30mm Double x extreme abrasion all the way!!!
 
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Enigma

Moderator
Question 1

Are you breaking the leader or breaking the leader off the mainline?

Question 2

Is the line ever wrapped around a guide or part of the rod once it has broken off.

I designed the Finesse rods and although the rod has a very soft tip it is designed for a full cast with a follow through.

It is asolutely not designed for a flick without a follow through

My son had the same problem where he was continually casting the leader off (not breaking the leader) He was not following through with the rod

The result of not following through is that a sudden stop in the cast causes the soft tip to whip up and down causing the line to wrap on the tip and the mainline subsequently breaks (not the leader)
 
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WolfWood

New member
Hi Enigma
I think I’m breaking the leader of the mainline but the line is not wrapped around the guides, it just hangs loose around the 3 to last guide of the rod.

My casting is terrible and would like to improve but it’s hard to do that when you are standing next to the water and tying knots and not casting.

I’m using the overhead cast and have watched a lot of videos about casting but adding power to the cast means losing the pap bom and not getting further than 60-70m.

I’m going fishing this weekend at the vaal, and will see what happens, just one question what do you mean by follow thru?
 
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Enigma

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From where it is breaking it would clearly indicate that you are stopping the rod dead and causing it to jerk and then the tip bounces and the line wraps around it.

Increase the Power and not the speed. Casting faster is not casting harder.

Hitting someone with a fast slap stings, hitting someone with a slower more powerful and deliberate punch hurts

That is the difference between speed and power.

Slow the cast down so you can release the bol at 45 degrees and follow through.

When you kick a ball your foot doesn't stop where it hits the ball your foot follows through. When casting release the line when the rod is pointing 45 degrees into the air and then bring the rod slowly to a stop.

Key is the rod must be straight when you release ie all the power you put into the rod to bend it will then have been transferred to the sinker.

If the rod is still bent when you release your cast then:

Your cast is to fast

Stored energy in the rod doesn't reach the sinker so your cast is inefficient

Your rod will make a swishing noise and you won't get distance.
 
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Jean Claude Vaaldamme

New member
Dink nie dit is jou probleem nie, maar iets wat ander dalk na kan kyk.
Sommige ouens as hulle die stokke oppak dan katrol hulle die swivel teen n groot spoed deur die ogies. Met die tyd kry daai ogies dan lelike merke op hulle wat dan ook kan veroorsaak dat jou lyn breek, maar dit is meer met die inkatrol. Jou lyn kan wel skade kry met die inkatrol en as jy dan gooi, snap hy. Ogies kan natuurlik op ander maniere ook seerkry of so uit fabriek kom.
 
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TimJan

Sealiner
Wolf die beste ding wat jy kan doen is vat n video van jou cast volgende keer as jy gaan fish en plaas dit hier.

Moet niks special doen nie net jou gewone cast maak nie saak of jou leader op daardie cast breek of nie.

Die slim manne soos Enigma sal jou dadelik kan se waar jou probeelm le.
 
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X2B*

Member
more manne

dalk is jou bom dalk nog te pap om te gooi
het nou al paar videos gesien hoe die manne met n spring weight n papperige pap cast.

anders is jou knoop van jou leader en main line dalk te groot
of dalk nie reg vas nie.
 
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Enigma

Moderator
Casting the bol off isn't the Bromley. He is breaking the mainline. The finesse rod (which I designed) has a very soft whippy tip and from his description he is wrapping his line in the tip.

The leader knot you referred to is very thick and not recommended for a very thin mainline to a leader double it's size as you can't butt the joint to up, it is a quick braid to mono connection

This is the most recommended freshwater bank Angling leader knot

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JyjTMIvzmbU
 
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Tackle-holic

Sealiner
So just one full turn of leader line around the doubled section of main line and then back though?
I have been using too many turns it seems.
 
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X2B*

Member
Enigma dankie vir die vid

Het nie gewwetbjy is deel van die sensation reeks nie

Dankie vir cool stokke

Het myself 2 carp hunter 10ft stokke gekoop.
 
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Enigma

Moderator
One full turn and then at the end of the 2nd turn back through the eye formed by the mainline. Easier to close. If you are using a Braid leader then 5 full turns and the next one back through the eye.

I'm not part of Sensation but do consulting work with them and have had input into other brands as well.
 
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Enigma

Moderator
One full turn and then at the end of the 2nd turn back through the eye formed by the mainline. Easier to close. If you are using a Braid leader then 5 full turns and the next one back through the eye.

I'm not part of Sensation but do consulting work with them and have had input into other brands as well.
 
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WolfWood

New member
Hi Almal

Ek wil net dankie se vir almal se input ek kon darm iets die naweek doen

Ek het alle guides nageen vir skade, het alle knope verander tussen mainline en leader toe gaan staan ek om te gooi en raai wat daar gaan hy. Ek het die keer niks funny try doen nie en net gegooi met die woorde follow tru in my kop.

Ek kry nou wel nie 100m nie maar tenminste het ek die naweek geniet en het visgevang

Moet nou net werk aan afstand
Enigma, wat is die beste afstand wat ek kan verwag van die Finesse stokke? Wat ek aflei is hulle meer visvang stokke en nie gooi stokkie nie!

Weereens dankie almal en stywe lyne
 
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Nantie90

New member
Hi sorry ek pla soek n nice knoop om my hoof lyn na my leader ye bind want as ek slide sit my slide baie keer vas op my knoop figure 8 knoop kan iemand my wys om n lekker knoop teaak asb!!! Dankie
 
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Enigma

Moderator
Wrong section

If you are connecting up to 1.2mm leader to a mainline using Fig8 to Fig8 your slide will easily go over use at least a 3 turn fig 8 and pull it up really tight and then trim the tag end off right against the knot
 
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