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Steve Catlin

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A while back I forked out R12000 to have my pool fixed and painted, after 2 months all the paint peeled off, long story short the company declared bankruptcy leaving me with an empty pool with half a metre of rain water in it. About 3 months ago I threw 5 platties in to see how they would fare. Here comes the good news, I am a Father again with fully formed 2cm baby platties swimming around.

The frustrating news is I bought 2 Shimano tld 20/40's that I can't make head or tails of. I have no idea on how to put line on them, use the gears, etc. etc. etc. Is there anyone in the Heidelberg, Nigel, Springs, Benoni area that I can go and see to give me a quick crash course on these reels? I go fishing on Friday and have to get lines out with these reels.
 
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Gcvanheerden

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I can't really come to you but here is some advice!Getting line on is easy all you do is tie the line to the drum of the reel and start winding,use your left hand to guide the line from left to right on the reel this will make sure there is a even line lay and that is all to it,it will feel uncomfortable at first but you will get used to it.Ok,now you have a lever on the right hand side plate of the reel this is to put the reel into a free spool.You only use this for casting.If you want the spool to release line slower tighten the knob on the left hand side-plate,cast control knob,(Make it fairly tight if you are new to multipliers or you can spend hours taking crows nests out).Here is a tip what I do when I am waiting for a bite is to put the reel into free spool and put the ratchet on.If you don't put the ratchet on the spool will turn to quickly resulting in a crows nest.Then the only part that is left is the star drag next to the reel handle.You have probally guessed that it is to create drag on the line.I am not certain how the tld are but my penns are:forward more drag backwards less drag.Hope that helps!Oh,and congrats on the platties what do you feed them I find that almost everything I feed them spoils the water quality.
 

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Gcvanheerden

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Sorry it looks like the cast control knob is not on the left side plate.I am certain someone that has a tld can tell you where it is.
 

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Gcvanheerden

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Sorry it looks like the cast control knob is not on the left side plate.I am certain someone that has a tld can tell you where it is.
 

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Steve Catlin

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No, I am going to send the lines out with a bait boat, I plan to use these reels only for long lines and targeting big barbel. Should I put a backing on the reels? if so what do you suggest? I am going to put 40lb mono on and use 45lb for hook links, no leader. How do you put line on under pressure?
 
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Gcvanheerden

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Braid backing will help to increase line capacity and once you have your lines further than 200m out the mono becomes a pain with all the stretch.I personally fish grinders straight braid and my penns have 150m double x high abrasion topshot with 450m braid on the bottom.I have grown so fond of the directness of the braid that I know fish all my reels straight braid,but I won't cast a multiplier with straight braid.Instead of looking at sufix just go with double x it is tried and tested.I like the high abrasion(green one) for my barbel lines if I use mono.I also use the high viz one for my carp rods.Don't look at the breaking strain of lines but rather look at the diameter.I find that a good mono topshot diameter is anything between.40 and.50 and I fish .70 leaders,that I will upsize if need be.I join the mono to leader with a spyker knoop but if I am joining the leader to braid I use a bob sands knot,both knots are really strong and with 50lb braid and .70 leader I struggle to break it.My hooklinks are between .57 and 1mm depending on the situation.
 
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Alien Invader

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Steve Catlin wrote:
No, I am going to send the lines out with a bait boat, I plan to use these reels only for long lines and targeting big barbel. Should I put a backing on the reels? if so what do you suggest? I am going to put 40lb mono on and use 45lb for hook links, no leader. How do you put line on under pressure?
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If you have the cash for braid, do it. Failing that, bang on 600m of line straight onto the spool. I drop the new line/spool into a bucket of water and reel it slowly in using your left hand to tension and feed the line in evenly...
Spool tension is on the right just under lever, this is to adjust the drag on spool for casting... My opinion, these things are easy to cast, all you need to do is start with small flicks and slowly build up distance, when you sinker hits the water, stop the spool!!! Good fighting reels that will do the job for any size Cat we have here in SA.
 
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Alien Invader

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Steve Catlin wrote:
Hi, are you saying fill the entire spool with braid?
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Personally, I dont like joins, murphy knows me to well, Lets say you get hooked up on a snag 300 meters out with your join somewhere in the water,,, pull it and where does it snap? On the join, braid gone! My opinion, if you can, put braid on. Good sports with braid as it does not stretch as much, you feel every head shake and knock into your bones... Good sport, thats after all why most of us do it. Even when you feel a bite while holding the rod, it's an instant HIT! I say, if you can, do it!
 
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Koper

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Alien Invader wrote:
Steve Catlin wrote:
Hi, are you saying fill the entire spool with braid?
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Personally, I dont like joins, murphy knows me to well, Lets say you get hooked up on a snag 300 meters out with your join somewhere in the water,,, pull it and where does it snap? On the join, braid gone! My opinion, if you can, put braid on. Good sports with braid as it does not stretch as much, you feel every head shake and knock into your bones... Good sport, thats after all why most of us do it. Even when you feel a bite while holding the rod, it's an instant HIT! I say, if you can, do it!
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((goodp_Agree with AI here, go straight braid.
 
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nobbles

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Hi steve,

I would also advise to go for braid, but mono in my opinion will be easier to learn to cast with. The main thing is to find your comfort zone with the reels. Take them both to a field and practice casting, start with a small weight and build up. You will also notice that you will find a weight that just feels easier to cast, each rod has there sweet spot when it comes to the weight. But as you get better you will be able to cast all weights with ease. Like the guys have said, start with small throws, this will also help you adjust to how much pressure you need to apply to the spool with your thumb to stop the crows nest biting you. Increase the distance and power of the cast as you get comfortable with it. You are going to crows nest, this is a given, you are also going to burn the hell out of your thumb a couple times when you first start, ive been casting with these reels for years and still burn the skin off from time to time. Wet the spool a bit when you cast, helps to stop the burn.

As has been said the star by the crank handle is your drag adjustment, i love the drag adjustment on these reel and is one of the reason i advised you to go for them. It is a fast adjustment and one you will get the feel of very quickly. I prefer the drag over the penn's becasuse of the smoothness in adjusting and the chances of you under or over doing it during a fight are slim once you get to know it. The little lever that almost hangs over the spool is the disengage. When you want to cast you flick it down, disengages the gear from the spool, will spin freely. I keep my reel in free spool after i have set baits and just leave the rachete on. The rachete, excuse spelling, is on the silver button on the opposite side of the reel. If you have your reel in free spool and click this on, there will be enough tension to not let the line crows nest when a cat takes, but outs very little pressure on the fish when it bites. Also you will hear the rachete from a mile off when the fish takes the bait.

Just one thing to remember, when you are reeling in you have to guide the line with your thumb and make it even on the spool, can take some getting used to but becomes second nature very quickly and you dont even think about it after awhile. You have bought some of the best barbel reels around and im sure your first monster will come from them.
 
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Kosie

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Steve u might also want to remember to take the rachet off when you take ur lines in. Sure everyone does these days though worth A mention.
 
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Kosie

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Steve u might also want to remember to take the rachet off when you take ur lines in. Sure everyone does these days though worth A mention.
 
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nobbles

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Good point kosie. and also never store your reels with the least amount of drag. Preserves washers a hell of alot better. But i often forget this and the reels still good, another reason why i love the TLD on only gets serviced twice a year just to be safe.
 
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Steve Catlin

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Never paid R1600 for line before, Sufix 832 50lb Braid, I'm thinking of using Kingfisher 52lb mono for hook links, is this ok? Do you use conventional rod stands, I see the reel is heavier on the one side due to the handle?
 
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