Dr halibut hoffman wrote:
Look on the USA forums..how many pictures of dead tarpon, bull red drum and black drum do you see..none. In places with decent inshore fisheries they frown upon killing fish like that and in some instances or a few, it is illegal too.
I'll not comment on any dead cob haha but the time is long gone for posting pictures of big dead coppers, black steenbras, a cob over 20kg or a dead breeding garrick..Almost all of our inshore fisheries are in a state of "official collapse" which if I am not mistaken is stock less than 25% of pre fished level and now cannot replenish itself, most are in a far worse state and some really should not be where fish are fast to grow and reproduce, but they are, some of out fishes are soooooo sensitive to fishing pressure and are beyond collapse but still ous post pictures of big dead breeders and expect cheering from the crowd..We need to accept that those times are long gone. A lot of our inshore stocks are between 1-5% of unfished level now we need to take responsibility for our future fishing..
so where does it leave us?
we all want the big breeders to swim away strongly!!!
that new pb, looks good on a picture, but they surely tastes kuk!!!!
I agree that we need to be more responsible when posting ourselves with fish pictures.
but users should know, that it is a free place, to post within limits.
we can make the rule between us, that we would like to have pictures posted with fish that is still alive.
then Michaelk comes, and posts his pb tuna with blood on the boats deck. "and it was released, ja sure lol"
so, rather take your picture with the fish still alive and post it then posting a clearly dead fish and claim it was released!!!
lets get on the same page, and move on.
this tread is getting enough attention, and all might be reading it, so they will be up to date what we are trying to do.
ill make it a sticky for now.
SkottelGoed Spons wrote:
Hi Willem Wkkel spies. This suggestion was made a few years back I see, but won't it be possible to add this site to Tapatalk. I feel you will have more active members if this forum was on tapatalk. Just some thought.
Do agree I want to see more reports and so on. I'm new here and quite like this forum. Lots to learn from!
Stywelyne en mag die site meer aktief raak.styw::
as I understand it, to incorporate tapatalk soft ware needs to be rewritten.
the one thing leads to the next.
it not just the flick of a finger.
so for now, it is unfortunately a no go.
but if we get the forum to another level, where it starts making money, we could ask Jeryl if we could upgrade the software to accommodate tapatalk.
tapa talk is not the one and only.
Understandable. Have the site owner thought of maybe migrating the forum to different software? for instance Xenforo? I am on a different forum that is on this software and this software has all add ons included. (including the tapatalk add on)lets not loose hope.
willem wikkel spies wrote:
Dr halibut hoffman wrote:
Look on the USA forums..how many pictures of dead tarpon, bull red drum and black drum do you see..none. In places with decent inshore fisheries they frown upon killing fish like that and in some instances or a few, it is illegal too.
I'll not comment on any dead cob haha but the time is long gone for posting pictures of big dead coppers, black steenbras, a cob over 20kg or a dead breeding garrick..Almost all of our inshore fisheries are in a state of "official collapse" which if I am not mistaken is stock less than 25% of pre fished level and now cannot replenish itself, most are in a far worse state and some really should not be where fish are fast to grow and reproduce, but they are, some of out fishes are soooooo sensitive to fishing pressure and are beyond collapse but still ous post pictures of big dead breeders and expect cheering from the crowd..We need to accept that those times are long gone. A lot of our inshore stocks are between 1-5% of unfished level now we need to take responsibility for our future fishing..
so where does it leave us?
we all want the big breeders to swim away strongly!!!
that new pb, looks good on a picture, but they surely tastes kuk!!!!
I agree that we need to be more responsible when posting ourselves with fish pictures.
but users should know, that it is a free place, to post within limits.
we can make the rule between us, that we would like to have pictures posted with fish that is still alive.
then Michaelk comes, and posts his pb tuna with blood on the boats deck. "and it was released, ja sure lol"
so, rather take your picture with the fish still alive and post it then posting a clearly dead fish and claim it was released!!!
lets get on the same page, and move on.
this tread is getting enough attention, and all might be reading it, so they will be up to date what we are trying to do.
ill make it a sticky for now.
That 100kg yellowfin is probably only 5 yrs old and is sustainable to pull out with rod and line all day long, the 50 kg cob should be 20-30 yrs old and the jumbo 47cm bluefish aka bronze bream could be up to 40 years old.. Fish like yellowfin, bonnies, wahoo, king mackerel and dorado grow nearly 3mm each day when very small..fish like poensies, blacktail, gallies. bronze bream etc might take 4 months to put that 3mm on..
Michael post all the pics you want its a free country, was just making a point of its past the time for killing breeding stock for our slow growing or collapsed stocks..when you get that 200lber yellowfin you better be posting a pic of the bloody deck, it is one of the more sustainable species you can catch.. the only thing that collapses that stock is industrial fishing.
But ja it is really high time to make an effort to get the message out of which species are slow growing and or resident, which are collapsed, which are beyond collapsed and also that the large fish that are breeding stock can be making up to 90% of the babies that we plan on catching in the future, makes sense to me to take care of them and not even remove them from the water, if possible, to release. To kill them aint but should be a crime in my humble opinion. But ja post away..I'll still be there in the background as the voice of reason though.
Dr. I like this post. Is it possible for you to maybe make a thread regarding which species is slow growers and which are the fast growers for people like me that are still new to this. I find that you have broad knowledge regarding the different species. This will make people like me to understand the fish better and what to take home and what to keep in the water for the future reproduction. Like I said before I am learning a lot from this forum and want to keep learning.That 100kg yellowfin is probably only 5 yrs old and is sustainable to pull out with rod and line all day long, the 50 kg cob should be 20-30 yrs old and the jumbo 47cm bluefish aka bronze bream could be up to 40 years old.. Fish like yellowfin, bonnies, wahoo, king mackerel and dorado grow nearly 3mm each day when very small..fish like poensies, blacktail, gallies. bronze bream etc might take 4 months to put that 3mm on..
Michael post all the pics you want its a free country, was just making a point of its past the time for killing breeding stock for our slow growing or collapsed stocks..when you get that 200lber yellowfin you better be posting a pic of the bloody deck, it is one of the more sustainable species you can catch.. the only thing that collapses that stock is industrial fishing.
But ja it is really high time to make an effort to get the message out of which species are slow growing and or resident, which are collapsed, which are beyond collapsed and also that the large fish that are breeding stock can be making up to 90% of the babies that we plan on catching in the future, makes sense to me to take care of them and not even remove them from the water, if possible, to release. To kill them aint but should be a crime in my humble opinion. But ja post away..I'll still be there in the background as the voice of reason though.
Dr halibut hoffman wrote:That 100kg yellowfin is probably only 5 yrs old and is sustainable to pull out with rod and line all day long, the 50 kg cob should be 20-30 yrs old and the jumbo 47cm bluefish aka bronze bream could be up to 40 years old.. Fish like yellowfin, bonnies, wahoo, king mackerel and dorado grow nearly 3mm each day when very small..fish like poensies, blacktail, gallies. bronze bream etc might take 4 months to put that 3mm on..
Michael post all the pics you want its a free country, was just making a point of its past the time for killing breeding stock for our slow growing or collapsed stocks..when you get that 200lber yellowfin you better be posting a pic of the bloody deck, it is one of the more sustainable species you can catch.. the only thing that collapses that stock is industrial fishing.
But ja it is really high time to make an effort to get the message out of which species are slow growing and or resident, which are collapsed, which are beyond collapsed and also that the large fish that are breeding stock can be making up to 90% of the babies that we plan on catching in the future, makes sense to me to take care of them and not even remove them from the water, if possible, to release. To kill them aint but should be a crime in my humble opinion. But ja post away..I'll still be there in the background as the voice of reason though.
Dr. I like this post. Is it possible for you to maybe make a thread regarding which species is slow growers and which are the fast growers for people like me that are still new to this. I find that you have broad knowledge regarding the different species. This will make people like me to understand the fish better and what to take home and what to keep in the water for the future reproduction. Like I said before I am learning a lot from this forum and want to keep learning.
Well said. We as the newbs learn alot from the more experienced anglers on this site. This site made me more aware of the catch and release. If it wasn't for this site I would've just kept all the big fish I would caught but this made me thinking about it more and to respect our ocean. I have caught my first shad in my life this year and it was a bus for me. I could've kept it but decide not to. I have the proof of it and that is more than enough. Just because I read about the reproduction of the bigger fish species I released that beauty.SkottelGoed Spons wrote:
Dr halibut hoffman wrote:That 100kg yellowfin is probably only 5 yrs old and is sustainable to pull out with rod and line all day long, the 50 kg cob should be 20-30 yrs old and the jumbo 47cm bluefish aka bronze bream could be up to 40 years old.. Fish like yellowfin, bonnies, wahoo, king mackerel and dorado grow nearly 3mm each day when very small..fish like poensies, blacktail, gallies. bronze bream etc might take 4 months to put that 3mm on..
Michael post all the pics you want its a free country, was just making a point of its past the time for killing breeding stock for our slow growing or collapsed stocks..when you get that 200lber yellowfin you better be posting a pic of the bloody deck, it is one of the more sustainable species you can catch.. the only thing that collapses that stock is industrial fishing.
But ja it is really high time to make an effort to get the message out of which species are slow growing and or resident, which are collapsed, which are beyond collapsed and also that the large fish that are breeding stock can be making up to 90% of the babies that we plan on catching in the future, makes sense to me to take care of them and not even remove them from the water, if possible, to release. To kill them aint but should be a crime in my humble opinion. But ja post away..I'll still be there in the background as the voice of reason though.
Dr. I like this post. Is it possible for you to maybe make a thread regarding which species is slow growers and which are the fast growers for people like me that are still new to this. I find that you have broad knowledge regarding the different species. This will make people like me to understand the fish better and what to take home and what to keep in the water for the future reproduction. Like I said before I am learning a lot from this forum and want to keep learning.
And that my fellow anglers are why we newbies joined this forum for education and training so that maybe one day we would have the wisdom and knowledge of the Salties to train the newbies and not give stupid answers.
Dr. I like this post. Is it possible for you to maybe make a thread regarding which species is slow growers and which are the fast growers for people like me that are still new to this. I find that you have broad knowledge regarding the different species. This will make people like me to understand the fish better and what to take home and what to keep in the water for the future reproduction. Like I said before I am learning a lot from this forum and want to keep learning.
Ja, good idea, I'll work on that..
http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=111692&forum_id=1
Thanks dr. I see you have created a thread where you will be starting this. Can't wait for it to be finished. Going to be a interesting read.SkottelGoed Spons wrote:Dr. I like this post. Is it possible for you to maybe make a thread regarding which species is slow growers and which are the fast growers for people like me that are still new to this. I find that you have broad knowledge regarding the different species. This will make people like me to understand the fish better and what to take home and what to keep in the water for the future reproduction. Like I said before I am learning a lot from this forum and want to keep learning.


Good afternoon to all Sealiners.
A little feedback wrt the site & it's activities.
Pottie @ Willem Wikkel Spies as we know him, has had a long chat with the site owner & thought it well to appoint addittional Moderators to assist in the monitoring & managing of the site, in conjunction with each other naturally.
Yes, its a slow process to "up the ante" & get it restored, thus patience is required with loads of understanding, lotsa practical suggestions/ideas which will be easily achieved, lotsa assistance from all members from all the different levels of angling facets ie. Salt/Fresh water, boating section, flyfishing etc.
Pse lets contribute positively, be active, help our newbies on the right track, give & supply advice in stead of being rude, cruel or annoying, post your catches, experiences, stories, new tricks, new toys on the market, etc. ( To many different facets & discussions to mention)
Currently we see WWS as the senior Moderator, with us as addittional members. However, it does not stop any member to PM any Mod with suggestions, complaints, ideas etc. & please feel free to voice your suggestions.
Willem Wikkel Spies is looking into a few matters to be attended, including that of upgrading member statuses, ie. From member to Senior or Sealiner etc.
Thus please be patient.
None of the Mods are ultimate fundis, nor do we know everything or nor do we have answers for all the questions or prevailing issues, but at least more heads together can surely provide a good solution.
We will be looking for new clients to advertise on SL.
The site does have running costs & currently Jerryl covers all cost without asking for a centfrom us as members.
This is a sincere request for all SL members assistance, co-operation, inputs & let's keep SL active & try get it back on track.
I repeat WWS's words by saying, "can we please leave the negative aspects & rather concentrate on the positives that Sealine provides us."
Please remember the Site Rules & abide by it, & remember to abide by external rules, regulation & the law wrt angling/conservation etc, which counts in our favour as a conservation conscientious group when posting your stories/accounts of fishing trips, catches etc. ito bag/size limits, & other conservation issues, etc.
Just remember, the Mods have day jobs, thus time is not always on their side & freely available to respond immediately, but all matters will receive attention & responses.
The Mods are,
Willem Wikkel Spies
Ben Reiners
Martin
Houtarm
Dr Hallibut Hoffman
I thank each & every member for understanding & please feel free to commucicate with the Mods.
Welcome to our new Mods & looking forward to work hand in hand with each other.
Fishing greetings to all.
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