Will do as soon as possible, just a quick report on their workings, well the ones I've tried at least..... firts cast a young one in the region of 1.2 - 1.5kgs was swimming towards the bank as I casted the kurper immitation, it turned around and swam underneath the lure as it was travelling through the air, as it toucehd the surface it got smacked silly, fought this bugger to the side but short line released it due to a bad hookset.. it was crazy!!! caught several fat pigs with the biggest weighing in @ 3.86kg's. @ points you could probably land three fat pigs @ once if you could muster the casting and retrieving of three rods. they were @ each other for the lures in the water, sometimes they needed a wee bit of bass calling, but then on more than one occasion they arrive in three's but never less than two..... will post the pics as soon as I got my laptop/sealine account sorted. one of these is stuffing me around something serious, I don't see my posts as I have posted then and don't get the latest posts indications, so just hang on in there.