galjoen tomorrow?
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white pointer
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i hope to get a dive in after work tomorrow for something hopefully
Johan.Nivvy
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give me fish!!!!! 
wahoo warrior
New member
ledge, ya, over 9 tons of tail trekked at fish hoek today...very sad....something must be done to stop this rape.....
wahoo warrior wrote:
Maybe 35 - 40 fish have come out from the ledges all season. Thousands of fish seen, but are still spawning me thinks... 9 tons... I have a pain in my heart!
That's more than a lifetime's spearing of the entire spearing network... But this is an issue that is burning in the hearts of many guys I know.
Maybe 35 - 40 fish have come out from the ledges all season. Thousands of fish seen, but are still spawning me thinks... 9 tons... I have a pain in my heart!
wahoo warrior wrote:
I hope this isn't true! If there's anyone out there that knows the truth, please comment.
Cheers,
L
As far as I've heard, over 2 tons was wasted because it was lying in the sun too long.
I hope this isn't true! If there's anyone out there that knows the truth, please comment.
Cheers,
L
Ledge wrote:
Hi Ledge
Mention the word treknet and you summon the geenie.
I am always impressed by the amount of nonsense that is spoken.
They landed about 3 tons.
There was a shoal of 30 tons or so further out in Fish Hoek working with sterretjies on top.
It is a pity that people talk so much nonsense about trekkers and miss out the valuable intel that they can provide on fish movements.
Ironically the ecosystem effects of shooting sea breams (sparids) on a reef are far worse than trekking 3 tons of yellowtail or even 10 tons for that matter.
I still shoot roman but I am aware of the impact that I have.
Hi Ledge
Mention the word treknet and you summon the geenie.
I am always impressed by the amount of nonsense that is spoken.
They landed about 3 tons.
There was a shoal of 30 tons or so further out in Fish Hoek working with sterretjies on top.
It is a pity that people talk so much nonsense about trekkers and miss out the valuable intel that they can provide on fish movements.
Ironically the ecosystem effects of shooting sea breams (sparids) on a reef are far worse than trekking 3 tons of yellowtail or even 10 tons for that matter.
I still shoot roman but I am aware of the impact that I have.
scaley character
New member
they can keep there valuable intel as long as they leave the breeding stock alone
scaley character wrote:
Hi scaly character
When you shoot sea breams like roman or red stump on a reef, you influence the breeding stock on that reef. If the reef is heavily worked then the sex reversal has to take place at an earlier stage. This puts tremendous pressure on the poptulation.
I am passionate about spearfishing but we have a far more profound effect on breedng dynamics of fish populatons than treknetters.
Mass of fish caught is not the only indicator of the effect of an activity on the ecosystem. In the case of yellowtail vs. roman. 10 or 20 big roman shot off a reef could be equal in biodiversity terms to a 100 or more yellowtail.
It might seem distastful to think along these lines but I am simply approaching the two activities from an ecosystem perspective.
Hi scaly character
When you shoot sea breams like roman or red stump on a reef, you influence the breeding stock on that reef. If the reef is heavily worked then the sex reversal has to take place at an earlier stage. This puts tremendous pressure on the poptulation.
I am passionate about spearfishing but we have a far more profound effect on breedng dynamics of fish populatons than treknetters.
Mass of fish caught is not the only indicator of the effect of an activity on the ecosystem. In the case of yellowtail vs. roman. 10 or 20 big roman shot off a reef could be equal in biodiversity terms to a 100 or more yellowtail.
It might seem distastful to think along these lines but I am simply approaching the two activities from an ecosystem perspective.
scaley character
New member
hi jb2
point taken about the roman,but i dont think the trek netters are going to get much sympathy on this website. its common knowledge that the simons bay area is a breeding ground for yellow tail and white steenbras. the white steenbras being a prime example of a species directly affected by trek netting in that area.i doubt it will ever recover.a few examples:miles told a story about a big school of geelbek in the bay,where a few fisherman were catching and the trek netters come and take the whole school.the fisherman must just get out of the way. in melkbos when the s easter blows the whole west coast is freezing and there are a few warm spots where most of the fish go. the trek netters will take the whole school of kob,galjoen,etc.
small bay,blouberg: blue peter hotel :theres a black +white photo upstairs of the whole beach at small bay covered with fish. it looks like hotties + galjoen all 2to3 kilos.all netted.
anyway enough for now.
point taken about the roman,but i dont think the trek netters are going to get much sympathy on this website. its common knowledge that the simons bay area is a breeding ground for yellow tail and white steenbras. the white steenbras being a prime example of a species directly affected by trek netting in that area.i doubt it will ever recover.a few examples:miles told a story about a big school of geelbek in the bay,where a few fisherman were catching and the trek netters come and take the whole school.the fisherman must just get out of the way. in melkbos when the s easter blows the whole west coast is freezing and there are a few warm spots where most of the fish go. the trek netters will take the whole school of kob,galjoen,etc.
small bay,blouberg: blue peter hotel :theres a black +white photo upstairs of the whole beach at small bay covered with fish. it looks like hotties + galjoen all 2to3 kilos.all netted.
anyway enough for now.
scaley character wrote:
Hi Scaley
I am not sure that Simons Town and Fish Hoek are breeding grounds for yellowtail.
I have asked the linefish scientists and they think that it is highly unlikely.
I know that it has been suggested that they breed there by recreationals but that is more an attempt to demonise trekking than anything else.
Using past behaviour as a means to assess a current fishing practice is not really helpful.
I still believe that spearfishing is possibly the most eco friendly activities around.
If I was to assess spearfishing by looking at the footage from the competition weigh ins in the the 70's and 80's I would swear that spearfishers fill bakkie loads of fish every time that they compete.
I doubt that there will be any sympathy for trekkers. One of the challenges for the recreational sector is the need to approach fisheries management issues in a rational way.
Hi Scaley
I am not sure that Simons Town and Fish Hoek are breeding grounds for yellowtail.
I have asked the linefish scientists and they think that it is highly unlikely.
I know that it has been suggested that they breed there by recreationals but that is more an attempt to demonise trekking than anything else.
Using past behaviour as a means to assess a current fishing practice is not really helpful.
I still believe that spearfishing is possibly the most eco friendly activities around.
If I was to assess spearfishing by looking at the footage from the competition weigh ins in the the 70's and 80's I would swear that spearfishers fill bakkie loads of fish every time that they compete.
I doubt that there will be any sympathy for trekkers. One of the challenges for the recreational sector is the need to approach fisheries management issues in a rational way.