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Nepptune

Sealiner
Morning guys…

 

I’ve made mention in the past of an idea of how to target Yellowfin Tuna on Vertical Jigs here in the Cape.

As yet, unfortunately these ideas are pure speculation as they have yet to be tested… but as soon as the opportunity arises, they will hopefully be plumbing the depths…

 

Having had extensive discussions firstly with Miles and since a whole bunch with Hammertime, a few points were raised by these two, who thankfully and very generously shared a wealth of their knowledge and insight.

 

There has been very little/no evidence of Vertical Jiggers having success on Yellowfin in our waters. And one of the main reasons stated was that these fish are not feeding on actively shoaling baitfish in the Canyons, but rather have developed a Pavlovian response to the Longliner and Stern Trawler bycatch.

So these fish are feeding mainly on bycatch off these vessels during the day, and possibly at night on Squid which rise up from the depths.

 

Miles in particular made mention that of all the tuna he and his crew clean, all that is ever found in the bellies is bycatch and Squid. So this got me thinking that this could be part of the problem in getting the YFT to eat jigs.

 

A huge part of the success in Vertical Jigging is that these jigs, when worked properly, illicit a “Reaction Strike” from your target species. I don’t know any baitfish species that swims vertically in rapid jerks, so there most be something true in this idea.

But success does depend on getting your jig infront of the fish successfully, and something about the jig must illicit that response in them to attack/eat…

 

So as these Tuna may be feeding actively on Squid during the night,  my thought was to put down jigs to  fish holding at 40 – 60 metre depths that are being marked on the sounders during the day.  

My thought too was to present them with a jig that has the look of a squid which would fall slower than a regular jig, but still hit the depths mark quickly, and with glow in the dark features too.  From all the reports of Yellowfin on Jigs I have read, tuna generally prefer a slower moving jig with a fluttering action which often gets hit on the drop, so this is what I tried to do too… and hopefully draw some of those reaction strikes from the Tuna.

 

Here is what I came up with:

I added squid skirts to a few of my favourite jigs by cutting the tip off the squidie, then spraying the jig with a bit of Q8 Silicone Spray I slid the skirt down to fit snugly over the tail end of the jig. Then rig jig as normal.

 

 

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Left to Right:

 

Zest Super Deep 300gram Jig

Generic Squid Skirt

Gamakatsu Tuned Jigging Hook #30

Kevlar Assist Cord – with “Anti Snoek” protective tubing ( Still needs Heat Shrinking to cover knot )

 Jigstar Chain Solid ring

Owner Spilt Ring

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Zest Cuttlefish 300gram Jig

Yamashita Glow Squid

Gamakatsu Tuned Jigging Hook #30 dressed with Small Yamashita Squid

Kevlar Assist Cord

Jigstar Chain Solid ring

Owner Spilt Ring

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Surecatch 300gram Flatside Jig

Generic Squid Skirt

Gamakatsu Tuned Jigging Hook #35 ( Still needs Heat Shrinking to cover knot )

Kevlar Assist Cord

Jigstar Chain Solid ring

Owner Spilt Ring

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Here is a pic showing the glow in the dark features of the  Zest Cuttlefish with Yamashita Skirt.

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All three jigs have strong Glow in the Dark properties.

 

So whats your thoughts guys? Miles? HT?  Thing these might get the YFT moving onto the jigs?

Hopefully sometime in the next few months these can be put to test on some deep hanging YFT.

 

Nepps
 

tkei

Sealiner
Nice Nepps, May try similar thing on some of mine to see if that will get the Coppers eating the jigs. I am sure they also want a slower moving jig.
 

Finnseeker

Senior Member
Morning Nepps, great post and I wished i could contribute buy seems like I cannot paste  or post on here, there is no option and I certainly dont have the hrs to re write all with pics and descriptions, How do you post multiple pics on one post ?
What do I know im just a fisherman
Done a lot of jigging for YFT Blackfin Tuna off and around the oil rigs in Brazil, and did this in MX as well have pics
 

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Nepptune

Sealiner
Tkei - I was thinking similar mate regarding those coppers... Slower jigging speed, closer to the bottom, more of a yo-yo style than speed/mechanical and with the added movement of the skirts, and the glow in the dark, could work better on the bottom thugs like coppers... let me know how you go.

Chris - Thanks mate. I use a website called http://www.tinypic.com to upload the pics, then paste the image code ( IMG ) post.Very easy to use and the instructions are all there and one can post as many images as needed, as well as type everything out in a word doc first, then copy and paste the whole message across so that if your connection goes for a ball of scales, at least you don't lose all the info.

Alternatively get yourself a photobucket.com account, and upload all your images to that. then you have your own account and can post the image codes whenever you need them without having to upload everytime.

Let me know if you come right. much easier to post a bunch into one post than into a whole bunch of them...

Cheers,
Nepps

EDIT - SNAP man thats a nice pig of a BFT.... Still a dream of mine... Got a DVD of old Lee Wulf series of him chasing 600 to 800 lb BFT from a 16ft Boston Whaler.... Awesome old footage of those huge brutes CRUSHING his mackeral daisy chain right off the back of his little Whaler... HT remind me to bring you that DVD!
 

Finnseeker

Senior Member
[color="#006600"]Nepptune[/color] wrote:
Tkei - I was thinking similar mate regarding those coppers... Slower jigging speed, closer to the bottom, more of a yo-yo style than speed/mechanical and with the added movement of the skirts, and the glow in the dark, could work better on the bottom thugs like coppers... let me know how you go.

Chris - Thanks mate. I use a website called http://www.tinypic.com to upload the pics, then paste the image code ( IMG ) post.Very easy to use and the instructions are all there and one can post as many images as needed, as well as type everything out in a word doc first, then copy and paste the whole message across so that if your connection goes for a ball of scales, at least you don't lose all the info.

Alternatively get yourself a photobucket.com account, and upload all your images to that. then you have your own account and can post the image codes whenever you need them without having to upload everytime.

Let me know if you come right. much easier to post a bunch into one post than into a whole bunch of them...

Cheers,
Nepps
Thanks Nepps, I have a photobucket account and all my pic there okay will try but not able to post text I have written on here , i was trying to send diagrams, pics and methods on circle hooks for another member and could not , no way to post on here and certainly dont have the hrs to rewrite each work.

I just cant paste text
 

Nepptune

Sealiner
Chris,

Have you tried pasting into MSword or similar first? Could possibly be something to do with the format of what you are copying from, and then pasting into this MB's format.... I have no clue about computers really so I couldn't tell you, but I find if you copy it into word, then copy and paste it into here, you should be fine...

 

I also don't use the "Add image" function on here when posting, I just post the image code.....

I know the feeling of frustration when you lose a long written post because of a connection or format error, so I've since learnt to type the long ones in word first...
 

Finnseeker

Senior Member
[color=#006600]Finnseeker[/color] wrote:
nope I give cannot paste ..........................sorry

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh worked thans Nepps


[size=One Method Of Circle Hook Rigging]
[size=#8/0 Eagle Claw L2004EL Circle Hook]
8 Piece of Monel
80lb - 100lb. Mono Leader
Ballyhoo

Today more than ever Sport fishing crews around the world are utilizing circle hooks in an effort to decrease potential risk to fish while practicing catch and release. Arguably the circle hook may not only be less harmful to released fish but the hook up percentage when utilized properly may be higher.

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[Step 1]
To begin (assuming you already have a leader ready), Twist the monel onto the circle hook as shown in the picture below.

Very important:
[size=[font=Arial] twist the wire leaving just enough room so that the loop around the hook slides freely but unable to slip off the hook completely. [/font]]


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[Step 2]
Place the circle hook as per picture up against the broken off ballyhoo bill. Place the twisted monel under the bill. Take the end of the monel, poking downward; pierce the center flap or mouth from the top. The monel is now facing down when pulled through. Next, run the monel behind the gill plate over the head and behind the other gill plate. Now take the monel and pierce under the chin upward through the center flap or mouth and finish with tight wraps around the bill.



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[Step 3]
The finished circle hook rig. This method will allow the bait to skip and swim.



Guatemalan Circle Hook Rigs

How To Rig with Circle Hooks Video
Materials:
1. 8/0 Eagle Claw Circle Hook
2. 130lb. Barrel Swivel
3. 20lb Monel – 15in.
4. 1/2oz Egg Sinker
5. Ice Pick


[size=[font=Arial]Instructions:[/font]]
1. Remove the eyes from the ballyhoo.
2. Trim the bill.
3. Take your 15in of monel and do a series of haywire twist around the barrel swivel.
4. Using the ice pick, put a hole on the top of the ballyhoo just in front of the eyes.
5. Thread your monel, with the barrel swivel on top, through the top of the head bringing the monel out between the 2 gill plates.
6. Pop the swivel into the head of the ballyhoo.
7. Install the 1/2oz egg sinker into the monel and dead center the sinker underneath the ballyhoo’s throat.
8. Take the monel and come around the gill plates. Pass the tag end of the monel through the eves 3 times. Secure and pull tight after each pass.
9. Take the tag end monel and insert it from the lower jaw through the top lip creating what would normally be your post.
10. Rap the mouth shut and clip of bill off.
11. Insert the circle hook into the eye of the swivel.

 
 

Hammertime

Sealiner
I think they will def work. I have baited whole big east coast chokka and caught some bruisers on them. We all know they eating squid. Whats the most popular lure pulled around our waters for Tuna?
Big white and medium sized squids, with or without a bird in front.

As soon as the fish are back to the point that it's worth running all the gas out, we will go try. I think it may be worth using a jig as you get a strike or find marks. As I have said before, not sure what effect it will have on raised fish in the chum line. I know guys set out to jig and then end up using the rig but going to bait. Not sure if it is because of failures or because of skippers making the change because the guys on the traditional rigs are going vas?

Only way to find out - lets go do it!
 

Nepptune

Sealiner
HT - Good point you make about the most popular lures being big old white squidies...

Defintely agree that the best time to deploy these would be on strike or when you seeing those deep marks rather than when fish are up in the slick... those fish in the chumline will be keyed in on the chum and getting them to eat anything but what is in the chumslick maybe be farting against thunder, not too mention fool hardy as chuck a bunch of iron on there heads would chase them down probably after all the skip and deckies hard work in bringing them up! !! :)

We'll def try it!
 
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