FLYING CARP??!! DAMN!!!!!!!!!

MadCarper

Sealiner
Eish, saw those Sensation pva dispensers yesterday and just had a chuckle... crappy stuff i'm afraid. Funny thing is a 6m ESP refill costs you less that a 5m dispenser of Sensation, haha.
 

Spod

Senior Member
MC, I like the fox one, I have the wide and narrow, but, these suppliers locally are dumb when it comes to stock replenishments, they have no idea how to order goods. Well, you know that, and I needed in a hurry cause my son was here from Madagascar and sprung a quick over night session on me.
Sensation is total crud!!! fortunately I only bought 2 of each... I used the wide on my narrow fox funnel dispenser,a bit tricky but managed, not ideal, but the end result was ok, just had to force the bag to get it packed tight. But the narrow sensation refills, I may aswell throw away, it wont even look at the fox funnel, its too small....
 

Lunker

Senior Member
I bought the sensation pva narrow for boilies and stick mix and I have never seen pva melt so fast in my life. as it hits the water it bursts, the freebies dont even have a chance to be presented to the fish by your hook bait. I am taking MC advice and going to look for the ESP pva
 

Spod

Senior Member
Hey guys dont get me wrong... I dont like that stuff either, my fox has never let me down, well it had finished on me but its always done the job 100%

I'll chat to the connection and see if he can get me some BFA, then check it out.

:sa: suport sa..!
 

Lunker

Senior Member
Spod. That would be good if you can speak to john. I bought 6 packs of his pva bags and they are great because one can get more freebies in and then there is the pva string...STRINGERS! CANT BEAT THEM.
 

pappi choulo

Senior Member
i'm a little late on this thread, but i've gotta ask...do any of you guys still use method feeders? in my opinion pva is overrated, you can get the same job done with the method and it won't cost you an arm and a leg...

minced up chick-chick/tigernut/maize mix molded around a method with some whole freebies matching your hookbait is hard to beat in my opinion!

just my 2c...
 

Spod

Senior Member
[color=#006600]pappi choulo[/color] wrote:
i'm a little late on this thread, but i've gotta ask...do any of you guys still use method feeders? in my opinion pva is overrated, you can get the same job done with the method and it won't cost you an arm and a leg...

minced up chick-chick/tigernut/maize mix molded around a method with some whole freebies matching your hookbait is hard to beat in my opinion!

just my 2c...

Yip! where you been? lol!

I think method feeders do have their place, I have a couple, but sadly only used them once, had good results using parts minced and bonded to feeder like you cannot believe. I tried what I saw on the korda Big Hits dvd, by placing my hooklink and hook in the feeder.... between layers of method mix.:spite
 

MadCarper

Sealiner
I used to fish almost exclusively with method feeders the first few years of my specimen "career"... went over to pv abit, but thought it was abit overrated and definitely expensive.
Problem is I enjoyed using the proper purpose-made method feeders one gets from Korda, Nash and Fox... but it is now REALLY ridiculously priced... Try R40+ for 1 feeder!!!! I dont really fancy the papgooi spring/feeder as it gets stuck too easily in watergrass for example...and its way too light... the imported feeder combined the feeder with a good amount of weight, which I like... but ya, I'm not coughing up R40+ a feeder!!!
 

Spod

Senior Member
Yip! may be the reason my Korda's are still in my box, scared of loosing them..hehehe!  Also, maybe as they inline, and I dont use inlins.

 I agree MC those spring jobs are just a waste of time, they not nearly as big, and as you light,  the Korda ones have an off set lead, which allows you to put your hooklink and hookbait on the other side, so when it lands, your bait and hook is always on top!

Nice design though, guess Steve Spurgeon, the Korda designer and developer is trying to recoupe his funds at those prices...lol! :?
 

MadCarper

Sealiner
actually, i still have 1 lone Fox Feeder that I've had for the last 3 years now... only use it on special occasions where there are no snags nearby, LOL!!!
 

Lunker

Senior Member
I just find using BFA PVA BAGS the hooklink goes inside the bag with the freebies and you are guaranteed that your hooklink will not get twisted around your safety clip and the presentation is flawless, the hook bait sits in the middle of the freebies.

I think that I am one of those lazy fisherman that hates preparing baits and hauling a huge bucket of spod mix around...I useally carry around a bag of plain supercast and a fold up bucket and fish at least one rod with method. PC you are spot on when you say it is over rated and easier just to put all your freebies on a methos feeder. The only thing that always worries me is if it is raining and I only have PVA and no method mix...
 

pappi choulo

Senior Member
damn lunker, laziness just never pays eh? i know what you mean though, we carry around so much equipment, it's no fun to add buckets of bait to the load!
i think the ideal solution is to get a fishing caddy...they use them in golf, so why not in specimen angling!

MC, you are dead right about those wire papgooi things that they call feeders man. they are totally useless. you also get those plastic ones that are not quite as bad but they don't have enough weight and they're always bright colours like yellow or orange for some strange reason!

spod, what do you have against inline leads?

personally i like using the method and i'd say i use it more often than pva. i really only like to use pva when i'm fishing a difficult lake and i'm using "one bite" tactics...i'll load it with a couple of boilies or whatever i'm fishing and use it with a single hook bait, no extra feed going in. but since i live in cape town now i hardly do that these days, no need for tactics like that over here, most carp down here have never even seen leadcore! i know 'cos they always compliment me on my nice terminal tackle when i weigh them! ha ha!
 

Spod

Senior Member
Like I have said before Pappi the clown...lol!

PC, I just dont like inlines due to the fact they dont eject leads, (the ones you buy at tackle shops without the slot in) the only way its dropping is if the line breaks, I know leads cost, but for a sizable fish, im not too worried about cost. Also in a snag, they can get caught up and not free themselves, then you have a line running through a snag to the fish??? safety clips eject/drop there, a line without a lug of lead is easier to free, not? Also, even if the inline run up the line in a snag/free situation, it then becomes a giant back lead, and could fowl somewhere else.Yes I know you have pressure on the line, but it still dips, and Im talking long range, not margin angling. I just dont like the lead always dangling near the carp, safety clips, drop on the take or in the struggle usually, and allow the fish to surface a lot sooner but its not uncommon to bring the lead home when on s/c.But setting the rubber stop or trimming the clip a bit controls the drop....even more. As I seldom cast, safety clips are my route...
 

pappi choulo

Senior Member
ok that's fair enough. i like to use inline leads cos they keep things nice and close to the bottom....you can set an inline lead up to eject also, but it's really a pain in the neck to do that, so when i'm fishing in snaggy waters i'll opt for safety clips.

i understand your point about the fish surfacing faster once you've dropped the lead, but i'm not sure i follow about the situation once the line has broken. if your terminal tackle is correctly set up the inline should slide down and off the broken line isn't it?

i mean there shouldn't be any hardware or knots larger than the diameter of the tubing in the lead on the section behind the lead?
 

Spod

Senior Member
[color=#006600]pappi choulo[/color] wrote:
ok that's fair enough. i like to use inline leads cos they keep things nice and close to the bottom....you can set an inline lead up to eject also, but it's really a pain in the neck to do that, so when i'm fishing in snaggy waters i'll opt for safety clips.

i understand your point about the fish surfacing faster once you've dropped the lead, but i'm not sure i follow about the situation once the line has broken. if your terminal tackle is correctly set up the inline should slide down and off the broken line isn't it?

i mean there shouldn't be any hardware or knots larger than the diameter of the tubing in the lead on the section behind the lead?

PC, did they get your glasses too?   lol!

If you use inline leads with a slot in them, they will ejecton snags. The slot is big enough to drop off the line/leader, but small enough to stay on the insert.

Dont know how you read there lol, but leads must drop off in break offs, safety first always.....  put somespecs on and read it again ..... hehehehe! :woohoo
 
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