Feel the burn

will101

Senior Member
It's a real treat to get 1st timers into snoek, see the smiles and share in the excitement! I recently took a bunch of guys from JHB off towards Cape Point to tackle the toothy buggers on light tackle. What a laugh!

 

 

PENN Gulley spin 6ft & PENN Applause 3000 with 20lbs braid:
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 PENN Powerstick 8ft & PENN Spinfisher 650 with 50lbs braid:
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My mate Mike a few days earlier – Shimano Exage & Daiwa BG30
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tauruck

Sealiner
Will, what a jol.

The okes had a good time.

I'm drooling here.

I guess I'll have to drink this Tobasco neat!!!:SSS:SSS:SSS
 

miles

Sealiner
Hiya

Congrats on a lovely catch!!::S

 

Just a bit of advice though, the tackle you mentioned above is actually the same as the tackle we use when catching them COMMERCIALLYy!!

20lb braid is adequate to land ANY fish that swims in False Bay with the greatest of ease.

50lb braid is what we use for longfin tuna and you can BULLY a 20-25kg longfin with 50lb braid!!

If you want to try LIGHT TACKLE, fish some 8-10lb mono or 6-8lb braid. Many of the league anglers target snoek with 2kg and 3kg mono......... Start off fishing for them with 10lb mono and as you get more experienced with using the lighter tackle, drop down to 6-8lb mono. Spending a good 10-25minutes landing a snoek IS huge fun on the lighter stuff!!
 

will101

Senior Member
Shot Miles. Well you got me there - all I can say in my defence is that I have maybe 1% or less experience compared to you.
I do not trust braid however (yet) and I very hesitantly bought the 20lbs. It's blimmin THIN! It seems to fray easily as well(rapala braid). Guess I must redefine my ideas about light tackle!
 

miles

Sealiner
Braid is VERY, VERY strong!! They almost ALWAYS break at a higher breaking strain than what ist advertised as. 20lb braid will most likely break at anything between  20-30lb's!!

The beauty of braid is that it allows you to DOWNSIZE your tackle. No need for 8000 or even 6000 sized reels for recreational fishing. A 2500 to 4000 sized reel loaded is more than sufficient....

My wife yesterday with a 2500 Stradic with 6lb braid:

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Hammertime

Sealiner
Man I enjoyed hearing that reel taking a pounding on that fish.
Yeah 20lb - hell, I catch tuna on that. 50lb is some of my HEAVY tuna tackle.
We fish 2 and 4lb braid in the bay to good effect.
I like 6lb though because you can pull from the seals a lot harder.
 

will101

Senior Member
Hammertime wrote:
Well Seeker we fish 1kg in league nowadays 3kg is now considered heavy. But I don't recall seeing you in or at those leagues since I been in CT the past decade. I'm not pulling anyones leg that's just how we do it. I posted a video on here a while back of tail off rocky bank on the same tackle - it's on here somewhere. In that video you will see just how hard you can pump it.

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Last edited on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 08:00 am by Hammertime
 

Wow man you guys are radical, no-one can deny it. For mortals who do not get out to sea that much, spending 25 minutes on a single snoek is a waste of time. The day is only so long! HT I reckon your fishing category could rather be called Ultra Light? I use 3kg for bass, as a minimum! The setup in the 1st pic I got as a backup for tigers. Having caught both tigers and snoek on fly, I can now rate them equals in terms of pulling power but snoek has no-where near the stamina.
 

miles

Sealiner
When TUNA fishing recreationally, 80lb tackle (36kg) is HEAVY tackle, 30-50lb (15-24kg) is meduim tackle and 20lb (10kg) is LIGHT tackle. Thats for fish in the 40-90kg class!!

The problem with snoek fishing is that one can almost always catch your allotted quota of 10 fish per angler. When the fish is 'DIK', catching your 10 fish, even on 20lb rod and reel tackle, will take you less than 20 minutes. NOW, once you have your quota of 10 fish per angler, your days fishin' is over!!

To lengthen your fishing day, fish for them with LIGHT tackle. Catch a few for the pan on the heavy 20lb tackle, then switch over to 8-10lb mono or braid and have a far more enjoyable fight. The BEST part about this kind of fishing, is that it builds ones skill levels. It teaches you patience and just HOW hard you can pull. You WILL lose a few fish, fishing like this, BUT, you will gain the skills on HOW to fight fish, which will help you TREMENDOUSLY when you start catching YELLOWFIN TUNA!!
 

will101

Senior Member
I see your point. To give you an idea of the chain of events with me taking 3 new guys out:

  • I get the boat on the fish (shoal moving the whole time), turn the boat and put it into a drift. [/*]
  • Hand out rods, tell the guys where to flick and basically coach them. [/*]
  • Now they all go vas![/*]
  • One brings a fish up, I boat it break neck, high five, photograph.[/*]
  • Next guy gets bitten off[/*]
  • 3rd guy manages to get the fish under the boat and almost tangle the outboards while I'm starting to tie on a new leader for guy no2.[/*]
  • 2nd fish on board,  photo etc[/*]
  • tie on new leader, lures etc.
[/*]
by this time the fleet of boats we were in are a good 100m away, travelling with the shoal. So basically within 10 minutes we've boated only 2 fish. I travel back onto the shoal and the whole process repeats itself. Hard work after 3 hours of all this with guys kotching and hanging on for dear life as the boat rolls around!

Sure when the snoek is dik you can chuck pick and haul fish but this particular day things were different!
 

Seeker1

Senior Member
Hi Hammertime, the leg pulling was said "tongue in cheek", and only about pulling the fish away from the seals, no hard feelings I hope.

I take my hat off to you guys for the catches you make on on ultra light tackle.

I battle to tie a strong double uni knot in 10lb braid never mind 1kg so I've got a long way to go, although I have landed some tail on fly-rod, but that was with 20lb tippet.

With all these "malkoppie" tail at the point over the last week or two, I have landed a number of fish on a Stradic 4000, light action 7ft Trevala jigging rod and 30lb braid, sorry to say but thats my light tackle, but then I like to pull the fish.
 
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