The problem i find here is that certain members shout the glory of ESA, ok, if i can remember correctly i made 2 statements on the esa program,the 1 was about them coming to Cape Town, and i had to hear about the logistics and how much it would cost, but they could afford to fish in foreign waters, lately the handling of fish,so would i be wrong in saying that certain programs are being treated bettter than others. the other was a remark made to one of their members looking up all the time when explaining something, think it was Dean, now i have a lot of respect for these fisherman, but was quickly reprimanded on criticizing them, really are some people treated better than others?And yes i love ESA, but why should critique be centered on one program, if you choose to live in the lime light , expect to be criticized.