DAIWA EXCELLER PLUS

Enigma

Moderator
I have had to service a number of these reels of late and have found many to be full of Salt, Dried out and with corroded bearings, and the first to go is the Roller Clutch Bearing that is difficult to come by.

The reel has a metallic looking (plastic) cover plate at the back if. The cover doesn't seal and has no seal on it.

The plate and anti-reverse switch (not sealed)
 

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Enigma

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Plate removed and there's a gaping big hole that the ocean rushes into when you dunk the reel.

Leaving your gears and bearings full of salt water
 

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tintin2

New member
thanks for the warning. 

This is the sort of thing you can prepare for if you do a thorough service before you start using a new reel, and it's good to know about the issue. 

from the looks of it, I would get a seal by putting a generous amount of boating grease (sticks like baby-poo to a blanket and reasonably salt-water proof) and then fastening the cover back.  Wipe off excess and should last for several months of regular dunkings. 
 

FRITZABU

Sealiner
That one way clutches and other bearings rusting, is not restricted to EXCELLER ,but all modern grinders !!! Shimano, Quantum , Fin Nor ,Penn the hole lot .

There is not one waterproof reel on market, that I have seen yet ? Exclude may be the 10k models .
 

Koper

Senior Member
Wish I had the guts to open up on of these spinning reels & service it to get to know it, with the multiplier I just did it, but for one reason or another I'm shit scared of the spinning reel.
 

FRITZABU

Sealiner
Koper not so difficult . If you don't get it back together .You can always post it to us ?

If you don't look after any grinder .This is what the one way clutch can look like, after a short few months.
 

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Enigma

Moderator
And then when it looks like that they take it back to the tackle shop expecting it to be replaced because it's a piece of S...t

That's still in good shape compared to some reels we get in..
 

GeeTee

Senior Member
Enigma - you`re spot on, i have an Exceller plus and after just the first session close to salt water, perhaps some splashes of water she seized. Thinking this couldn't be true, supposed to be such a fantastic little reel.

It was true, i now service it after every trip and try my best to keep it far away from water.
 

FRITZABU

Sealiner
AggelosLrK wrote:
That reel has some major issues.. its not made for saltwater in any case.
unacceptable design flaws.

Sorry I have to disagree . No reel is salt water proof ? If its not maintained correctly . Any reel will have serious issues .
 

tintin2

New member
They are good reels - but like all reels I have ever been able to afford, it does require a full greasing before first use as well as regular checks.

If one day I buy one of the high-end reels I will do the same service.

  • Before it's first use the reel is stripped and the gunk the manufacturer has left together with all the grease (you'll be lucky to find much) is removed and replaced with a salt-water boating grease - heavy and sticky.  The inside is basically packed out with this new grease.  [/*]
  • All the screws get a smear of same grease so that they do not sieze.[/*]
  • all the mating surfaces get a smear - this acts as a gasket and a seal.[/*]
  • the handle and roller bearings get a high grade oil - I use 15W50 for diesel engines.   Do not try this at home, and if you get burnt I did warn you.  If bearing is sealed, heat oil gently in a shallow dish/spoon with enough oil to cover the bearing.  The oil will get to about 60 or 70 degrees and you will see the bubbles that indicate the sealed bearing is sucking in oil. 
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That's it - this reel will take casual spray and even the occasional dunking and all it will need is a wash with fresh water.  On long trips away from such luxuries I take a spray bottle of dishwasher mix, and one of fresh water for rinsing afterwards.  I also spray oil on the exposed roller bearings after every use.

Then I will redo that initial service about every 3 years or so.  I have cheap reels that I still use frequently and which I bought in the early 1990's that are as good as the day I first got them. 

Sad in a way as I have removed all reason to buy a new one....
 

Joker

Senior Member
Nice post Tintin2

Opening a Grinder seems quite a daunting task. I open and service my own multipliers and so far its holding up well. :)

All those parts man. Will have to give your initial service a go.
 

Jacquesdw

Senior Member
My Diawa Excellor 2000's bearing went this weekend and my Excellor 3000 went last year. Sh!tty when it does that on the water. I service my reels fairly regularly and always wash off in fresh water after every trip.
 

FRITZABU

Sealiner
Jacquesdw wrote:
My Diawa Excellor 2000's bearing went this weekend and my Excellor 3000 went last year. Sh!tty when it does that on the water. I service my reels fairly regularly and always wash off in fresh water after every trip.

Was that the bearing under the rotor ?
 

Jacquesdw

Senior Member
Yes that one on both reels. The anti-reverse went when ever there was pressure on the line like hooking a fish.

It should not be difficult to replace but apparently difficult to get hold of.
 
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