Crows nest problem

RuggedChris

New member
Thank you very much Nico for your kind offer... However due to hassles with the ex girl and her car (whole other story) I'm araid a mission down to the south coast is off the cards for a while!

However look out for myself and Stuart in the blue ORI shirts on the beaches .... we are interviewing fishermen for his masters thesis... a report on the recreational line fishery in kwa zulu Natal.

Well the reel has to go into Kings to get looked at anyway so i reckon I should just put the bearing mod on now and get use to it!

Should I put on the Giant abrasion line again... I mainly want to fish for edibles (KOB!!!!!)
 

RuggedChris

New member
Okay Okay

The reel has arrived back from Kings looking in great shape It was as I suspected the spool tension control thingy was completely not working and thus letting the reel free spool. So i will put some line on and see what happens.

Nico thanks for the invite on the weekend, things are pretty hectic here so I don't see much chance for a mission down to the South Coast just yet. I will probably just have some throws at Battery.

Have a look out us in the ORI shirts, we are going through the coast interviewing fishermen for a national recreational linefish survey... So your co operation and honesty would be appreciated.

Thanks
 

Megsi

New member
I struggled big time when I took up fishing as an adult and began fishing with a multiplier (Penn 500A). As a kid I only fished with a coffee grinder. I used to get an overwind at least every third cast and could only cast about 50m. I only fish 2 or 3 times a year for 3 days at a time. Things didn't improve too much and eventually I went to Kingfisher with my set up and they laughed. Set up was all wrong they said - rod tip too light. I was mad coz they sold it all to me in the first place. A year or so later I bought a 14ft Posiedon 3 (Light tip)and a Shimano speedmaster - and blow me down but things were not much better. Still casting 60 to 80 m and getting too many overwinds, burning my thumb off, etc. The good thing is that I became an expert at unpicking birds nests. Unparalleled! I persevered and picked up the following tips
1. Tighten the spool (as per what the guys are saying above)
2. Each time I cast I dip my hand in the water an sprinkle a little on the line of the spool. No more thumb burns.
3. Hook the bait onto the sinker (all the grapnel sinkers have this hook) before casting. It stops the bait from spinning and line comes off the reel much more smoothly. Bait releases from sinker on hitting the water
4. I moved to a heavier6oz sinker so I could just lob it and still get distance. It also counter-acted the tight spool.
5. I aimed to thow my bait at a point at about 75 degrees ABOVE the sea, not at the sea itself (which is at 45 degrees).

My number of owerwinds went right down but my distance was still not great with that tight spool. One tip I spent about 8 hrs throwing a plug and loosening the spoolevery once in a while. Finally I began to get some distance. Once I had the right feeling for it, I could cast the an unhooked sinker on an loose spool with very few overwinds. Hell, I can even cast my old Penn 500 with my old rod now with NO problems. Lighter sinkers or heavier sinkers (within a range of 4 to 7oz) - makes no difference to me now. I don't throw far - but I can throw over 100m if I need to, which is fine for most angling needs.

Casting is a feeling - you build fine motor muscle memory - so your body knows when to twist and your fingers when to relase and how to control that line. The right control of your thumb on that line is impossible to tell someone. It really makes no difference if you thumb the side of the spool or the line itself. Either way can work. Some guys get it quickly and others take time. I doesn't help if you are not practicing regularly. But once you have it, you have it!

BTW - Kingfisher run casting clinics every so often. I've never been to one though.
 

RuggedChris

New member
Okay... This is the story!

So I finally got some time to go fishing and headed up to Cape Vidal for some work and a little bit of fishing.

I must say things were going great!!! The reel was behaving, I was throwing it a mile and a half (just dropping short of Madagascar) until......

My mate I was fishing with decided he want to have a throw and double check everything was alright. He wound it a massive shot ... the sinker went like a bullet, as it reached its highest point just stopped in mid air ( Here we go I thought... The crows nest from HELL!!) on closer inspection no crows nest but THE REEL WAS NOT LETTING OUT ANYMORE LINE!!!

After taking it apart I think the bearing has seized completely.. So its back to KINGS.... F^#*^S)KES!!!!

Is this a common problem with the Shimano 20/40???
 

rianc

Member
Now this is how it should look if your sinker snaps of your line.
 

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Simen

Sealiner
Uitstekende volstruisnes daardie!!
No matter how you look at it, it takes a lot of practice to really master the art of casting, to such an extent that you could pick up any rod and really get good distance with it.
Megsi wrote about the feeling for a reel, and I agree with him that is probably the most important aspect of casting.
Guys that are fortunate enough to fish often, will obviously be better off than the guys that get to the water only a couple of times a year.
My advice here will be practice during the year so that when you get to the water you dont have to spend the couple of days you have, beeing frustrated and "learning" to cast.
I think the old rule of PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT really applies here.
 

200ts

Senior Member
I think its a bit like riding a bicycle. Once u masterd the art, then u dont forget.  I dont fish as often as i would like being land locked and all my surf tackle is in durban.  Just take the first few casts easy, and before u know it, everything will be in place.  Wrt to overwinds, i think, it will always happen, even to the best, only difference is the the frequency.   Practice does make perfect, and peserverance, just dont give up :), U will get there. 
 
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