Conman deluxe

Mouldz

Sealiner
I was asked by my mate if I would post this as a warning.About a year a go a conman walked into our lives,My mate has a small farm outside P.A.and he decided to convert some of the outbuildings into a guest /game lodge,over December a Indian guy his wife ,son and daughters booked in for a week ,payed cash in advance,stayed on for a extra 2 weeks also paying cash,he and my mate became good friends,this guy took him out on fishing charters etc,anyway this guy,called himself Brandon,said he would like to get involved in the lodge because he had shares in MSC shipping and had American clients who would pay big bucks to stay on the farm,anyway all was agreed that Brandon would buy the building material to build more rooms and a restuarant,I was called in to help with building ,plumbing etc,things were flying along ,gravel roads were laid,restuarant equipment bought,horses paid for in cash by Brandon.
All the while Brandon was pushing us as he said he had clients from Hyundai arriving,he was always on the phone talking to these clients,he even showed us the ships and some of the cargo he transported.on one occasion he sent his wife and my mates wife to P.E. airport to collect these so called clients,while they were on their way he called them to say the clients had hired a car and were going to do a tour before coming to the lodge,we accepted this and carried on.
In the meantime Brandon moved into a massive house on the marina which he said he bought for cash,he also showed us a big boat he said he had paid a deposit on( R1million rand boat).
On one occasion he asked my mates wife to book a ticket to Joburg,gave her his I.D,of which she made a copy ,later we found out some of the numbers had been changed around.He always walked around with two pistols as he claimed people were always trying to kidnap him as he was so wealthy,always had about R20 000.00 cash on him.To cut a long story short the American clients never materialised,all sorts of explanations were given by Brandon.One Thursday he went to town,we ordered building materials and was told they cant supply because the account had not been paid,Brandon promised us that morning that he had paid,many frantic phone calls later we could not raise Brandon,at this stage my doubts started setting in,anyway next morning my mate and another builder went to town ,gained access to the house with the help of security and you guessed it ,gone,clothes and fishing tackle gone,food left in the fridge,and a few christmas present which obviously could not fit in the Merc he told us was his wifes.
What is baffling to us is he never conned my mate out of any money,Brandon had the building supplier account in his name and other things he paid cash for.
The building supplier is still busy with court action against my mate,but his laywer is not too concerned as the account was in Brandons name,my mate has paid a bit towards one of the brickmakers and a few others,he is just that kind of person.My mates wife started a search for this guy and traced his brother to Eshowe in Natal(if it is the same guy),the police say they cant make a case as he did nothing illegal except leave a big building material account,His name he used was Brandon Ngayo,the liscence plates could not be traced .My mate and I still sit and discuss his motives, around the braai ,we cant figure out his scam,he took nothing he left a half built lodge behind,albeit not completely paid for,so if you are approached by a middle aged Indian guy and his so called family,be careful.When he left he told the security at the marina gate he was going to Cape Town on holiday,at first we suspected he had gone to cape Town and had a accident or something,but after a year me thinks he has gone to greener pastures.He claims he is part owner in MSC shipping and some road transport company(cant remember which one),he even shows you photos of ships and manifestos of cargo.

The boat builder says they know nothing of selling this guy a boat,the estate agent says he rented the house,paid in advance.So if this guy sounds familiar to any one give us a call,although what he did was not so bad,we would like to ask him a few questions if you know what I mean,soon after it happened my mates wife posted this story on face book and she realised they had no photos of them even though she was taking pictures of the building operations all the time,he seemed to avoid the camera.
Also one of the stories he was spinning was that his one daughter was going to marry the Italian owner of MSC ,she showed us photos of the venue ,dresses etc,one night when we all braaied at his house on the marina,maybe the whole family is in on the scam ,whatever it is.The scam went so far as to Brandon ordering the best whiskey,wine,steaks etc for these so called Hyundai clients ,hunting trips were arranged for them.So there you go,if this guy and his modus operandi sound familiar send him our way we would like to use him as slide bait,he was /is a very keen fisherman,he hired a charter boat twice a week,and took my mate a and his son out with him.
 

BTTB

Senior Member
I know this is not 100% pertinent to your story, but a few life lessons I have learnt along the way.

1. Never do business with friends and family.
2. You can't cheat an honest man.
3. An honest man works hard.
4. If it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't.

Sorry to hear about your conman. These sort of people need to be named and shamed.
I know what I would do with him ...
 

Mouldz

Sealiner
BTTB wrote:
I know this is not 100% pertinent to your story, but a few life lessons I have learnt along the way.

1. Never do business with friends and family.
2. You can't cheat an honest man.
3. An honest man works hard.
4. If it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't.

Sorry to hear about your conman. These sort of people need to be named and shamed.
I know what I would do with him ...
This is the wierd thing about it,my mate actually scored,he was left with most of the building work done at no actual cost to himself,the building supplier could not pull this down or make him pay,the main contractor lost a bit of money,so what was this guys scam??.The contractor has tried to claim the six horses as compensation but the lawyer says he must pay for all the medical bills, food and stabling my mate forked out,the deal was that Brandon would build the lodge and the profits from the bookings of these so called high paying clients would be split,
 

BTTB

Senior Member
They say that people who talk about sex a lot are the ones that probably don't get enough.

You could draw a parallel and say that those who talk about money or brag about money as if they have plenty probably don't have any or are in debt.
 

Simen

Sealiner
MOULDIE wrote:
BTTB wrote:
I know this is not 100% pertinent to your story, but a few life lessons I have learnt along the way.

1. Never do business with friends and family.
2. You can't cheat an honest man.
3. An honest man works hard.
4. If it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't.

Sorry to hear about your conman. These sort of people need to be named and shamed.
I know what I would do with him ...
This is the wierd thing about it,my mate actually scored,he was left with most of the building work done at no actual cost to himself,the building supplier could not pull this down or make him pay,the main contractor lost a bit of money,so what was this guys scam??.The contractor has tried to claim the six horses as compensation but the lawyer says he must pay for all the medical bills, food and stabling my mate forked out,the deal was that Brandon would build the lodge and the profits from the bookings of these so called high paying clients would be split,


Look at it the other way, maybe this was the tooth faerie in disguise, as I read none of your mates are any worse off.

How well could they have been if this venture was fulfilled.

Maybe it was all the truth at the start and things just went bad on his side during the venture.

If he was a con man, you would have ended with a lot of money spent and with a lot of dept.

A liar maybe, but a conman -- wont precisely describe one like that
 

mikesfb

Senior Member
Simen wrote:
MOULDIE wrote:
BTTB wrote:
I know this is not 100% pertinent to your story, but a few life lessons I have learnt along the way.

1. Never do business with friends and family.
2. You can't cheat an honest man.
3. An honest man works hard.
4. If it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't.

Sorry to hear about your conman. These sort of people need to be named and shamed.
I know what I would do with him ...
This is the wierd thing about it,my mate actually scored,he was left with most of the building work done at no actual cost to himself,the building supplier could not pull this down or make him pay,the main contractor lost a bit of money,so what was this guys scam??.The contractor has tried to claim the six horses as compensation but the lawyer says he must pay for all the medical bills, food and stabling my mate forked out,the deal was that Brandon would build the lodge and the profits from the bookings of these so called high paying clients would be split,


Look at it the other way, maybe this was the tooth faerie in disguise, as I read none of your mates are any worse off.

How well could they have been if this venture was fulfilled.

Maybe it was all the truth at the start and things just went bad on his side during the venture.

If he was a con man, you would have ended with a lot of money spent and with a lot of dept.

A liar maybe, but a conman -- wont precisely describe one like that
Reading through it again, I have to agree with Simen, the only person who lost out was Brandon, maybe he conned your friend into being his friend, but didnt con him out of money!
 

TOE 007

Sealiner
well , youre bud is not off any worse than he was before ... thats not tooo bad .


Seems this guy was washing cash bigtime , through you guys , if like you said its all in cash , could even be he gave the boatbuilder and estate agent a few extra bucks a , seeing it was all cash , they also benefited from the deal , not paying tax on income ....

but i must admit , its a baffeling story , i just hope this guy [and his family] LOL does not rock up there and demands a piece of the pie ...

Seems there loads of scams like these or sorta like these , these guys must be connected to some illegal mission , Drugs , Prostiution , who knows ....

Besides , who carries around that amount of cash and tells basicly strangers about the 'thickness ' of his wallet , has this bigshot never heard of a Credit or Debit card ?

bru i really hope you find this Skelm !!!!
 

Mouldz

Sealiner
Ja its very baffiling,My mate did end up with a bad name around town,one of our theories is that he did work for MSC shipping and stole some of there cash and he was trying to launder it before the mafia broke his legs,We would like to find him just to ask him what his scam was:fbash:fbash
 

adam5016

Sealiner
MOULDIE wrote:
Ja its very baffiling,My mate did end up with a bad name around town,one of our theories is that he did work for MSC shipping and stole some of there cash and he was trying to launder it before the mafia broke his legs,We would like to find him just to ask him what his scam was:fbash:fbash

Jy moet ons maar ook vertel, want ek is nou baie nuuskierig oor die ou se planne.
 

TOE 007

Sealiner
its a pity about , you guys reputation , one can imagine small towns ,it make a big diffrance ,with alot of things .

your 11th post makes nogal sence ....


on a lighter , less seriouser note , its funny how the guys always goes to the eastern shores of south africa to hide out .... LOL
If you have details of this person and you know a laywer you should only have to pay a small fee , to find an Physcical address , or some trail of where this Person is ,however this guys seems very alert , or just really skelm , the fact that he just paid cash , means theres no trails of him with regards to Bank acc , Acounts ...wait a minute his phone number should be or get Rica , you know , why not try to get in search of him that way ...
then the skelm must have more than one number and phone ...

what a travisty , how cash can make one ,seem INVISBLE . Hell!
 

junaid

Senior Member
this is very confusing...it just dont make sense

possibility for relatively little outlay he used your friend to reel in 'bigger foreign fish' ie. probably duped them into beleiving he was some big wig in return for some contracts or a job abroad

or maybe to get his daughter married to some tycoon... it may have worked and he skipped the country or he was caught out and he skipped... or maybe his daughters prospects wernt looking good

just too many maybe's

your friend should consider himself lucky he's rid of this guy
 

PH

Senior Member
Very, very strange. It alomst seems like this conman targeted himself more that everybody else.
 

Mouldz

Sealiner
Ja we also thought that he made these foriegn tourists pay in advance,gave them directions to another game lodge in the area,pocketed the money and these guys are driving around looking for the lodge
 

carpoholic20

New member
Well your buddy isnt worse off maybe he just felt like helping your mate! Or maybe he just needed to get rid of some cash he stole! i wouldnt even bother looking for him just finish the building and carry on!
 
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