Caught this bass a while ago and was wondering if

[Herman Nel]

Marthin

 

Thanks for your useless observation.

If you cant say something informative or post something of worthiness to read,why post at all?

At least I am trying ...

 

[Ryan]

Herman - sorry I kinda agree with Marthin.
Water clarity does have minor colouration effects on the fish which Pershond has pointed out by mentioning the livewell thing and colour change.
The bass intially featured clearly shows a recessive melanistic gene.....

 

[Herman Nel]

Hiya Ryan!

No true,I agree totally with the genetic colouring, but I am giving what I have encountered in my few years at the water.

Point is , fish do tan in clear water, compare a river carp to a dam carp...same story.

The Black fish on my photo was kept in a white livewell for at least one hour, and was still black, altough livewells arent lighted up now are they?

There is certainly a lot of theory in this, and I feel any of the one mentioned above could stand a chance...

Attached find a pic of a hog caught in the States some while ago...also a "Black Bass"...

 

 

[Ryan]

Hehe - my next question to you.....

Prove that that is caused by enviroment and not genetics

 

[Ryan]

I still believe the bass in the first post is a melanistic bass - even the fins are black compared to your pic above...

 

[Marthin]

Herman moet nou nie onnodig kak soek nie.

Die idee dat die vis getan het is belaglik. Daar is meer as 1 vis in die dam waar die vis gevang is. Die water is kristal helder. Net een vis is PIKswart die res is die gewone kleurskakeurings.

So as dit die omgewing was, hetsy besoedeling, radiasie, die son, of iemand soos jy wat heeldag langs die water gestaan en kak praat het.... moes meer as een vis so pikswart gewees het. Genetiese disorders kan wel 1 uit n miljoen affekteer.

Al wat ek se is bass verander van kleur, maar daar is perke. JY gaan ver soek om n verkleurmannetjie te kry wat heeltemal helder pink is soos die Nokia advert hier onder op die bladsy.

 

[Herman Nel]

Wel MARTHIN, ek dink jou stelling het meer poef uitgelok as myne...watch maar die taalgebruik aangesien hierdie 'n familie site is....

VOORDBEELD A

My GROOT vriend Jaco met 'n dam karp ( diep troebel water,in die koeler Hoeveld son ),redelik lig tot goud in kleur...

 

[Herman Nel]

VOORBEELD B

My vriend Nicky Stapelberg met 'n Rivierkarp ( Vlakker skoon water, warm laeveld son ) donkerbruin tot swart in kleur...

 

"I rest my case"...alweer,,,

 

[Ryan]

Sorry I still don't agree that it has got anything to do with the SUN - genetic (recessive gene's)

Guess this is one of those subjects where we can agree to disagree......

 

[Herman Nel]

Deal as usual...?

 

[DJP]

OK so I see it like this,

To put it in simple terms...if your white you can tan and get darker... but not black. Same with bass. Its called phenotypic expression, the phenotype can only be expressed if the genotype encodes for it.

If you guys think of how many colours koi fish appear in. They are only ornamental domesticated varieties of common carp, yet not all carp look like them. Even though they all have the similar genotypes their colourful rececive phenotype is not expressed in common carp.

 

 

[Little Green Fish]

Before we get lost in the explanations and end up shooting each other in the streets again...... let's just answer poor braailegend that still sits there wondering what the @#$%^&  just happened to his post, BUDDY the answer is a definate NO it's not Normal.

Reasons: ?

 

[Ryan]

Thanks LGF in so many words...

 

[DJP]

LOL...sory went a bit to technical...LOL!

I would say its a rare catch and thus out of the norm.

 

[Herman Nel]

Dis nogal diep...

 

[braailegend]

The genetic thing I think is the awnser, not that Herman is not onto something, but all the other fish are light. Here is a pic of the rest of the Bass colour scheme in the dam...

The dam/pond is 1m deep, at the deepest, so if they were tanning, all of them would've been sunburnt by now.

 

[Ryan]

braailegend wrote:

The dam/pond is 1m deep, at the deepest, so if they were tanning, all of them would've been sunburnt by now.

Bwohahahahaha.........

 

[Loams]

Ek gaan nou ook maar inklim..

Herman.
ek stem heeltemal met jou saam, Bass in helder water is gewoonlik donkerder en Bass in vuil water is gewoonlik ligter. Ek sou nou nie saamstem dat hulle "tan" nie maar hulle pas aan om een of ander rede ja.

DJP has the answer,
From my limited knowledge of nature its like this. The gene pool in a small/new dam is very limited, therefore, recessive genes will come to the front more often than usually, which is why this kind of thing will happen. This is without a doubt a "mutation". it's the same principle that applies to White Lions in the Timbavati. That Bass is genetically black, if you put him in a livewell or in a sunbed, he's gonna stay predominantly black.

 

[Ryan]

Thanks Dr Sanparks

 

[ajayrajh]

braailegend wrote:

Caught this bass a while ago and was wondering if this is a normal colour deviation for a bass... "Googled" it and could not find any bass this black. Maybe the experts know on sealine know more than google..

WOW what a specimen.