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Mr J

Senior Member
Hi Guys

Need some help as usual...... Seen the Shad fishermen in PE cast a whole pilchard (without sinker) with a multiplier. They do so succ-sexfully without a sinker and get no bird's nests. Surely this is not Science Rocket!!!!!

 How do I go about this?...... As it will result also in fewer sinkers lost. 

Cheers and Fanks

 
 
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DINGO

Senior Member
Mr J, also use to fish this method, BUT back in the day. I used a small penn 155 and the old purglass (fibreglass) rod 325/1. I think the trick is a "soft" / whippy  rod to swing the whole sardine as a drift bait. On a softer tipped rod (even a carbon)rod you will feel the weight of the sard. 
 
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griff

New member
I've watched the locals at Port Edward cast these sards, but there is a ball sinker about 1 to 2 oz sliding on the line infront of the sard. It slides down to alwost the nose of the whole sard.

Also noticed that the ones doing this are using an older Penn multiplier with the very narro but large diameter spool. I have the same but for the life of me cannot remember the number. (I'm at work reel at home). I have never tried it as I'm far to scared of the down time with the NEST. 
 
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Mr J

Senior Member
The other alternative is of course the spinning reel but i've always been fascinated by this........
 
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kitefisher

Sealiner
Like Dingo said,,,softer tip longer drop,smaller reel,and smooooother cast.The amount of line on the spool could also help eliminate backlashes,and also the thickness,a nifty reel for this nowadays would be Daiwa 20 loaded with .40-43mm or even a Daiwa 30 ,both reels only loaded with said line until about 3mm below the lip of the spool.

My Dad fishes like this all the time(only targets shad nowadays) he has a Penn International 965 with levelwind,on a custom built "soft" 14'Malcolm-Botha 2-4oz Rapala rod.He is 76yrs old,and I have seen him outcast many anglers with conventional sinker shad-traces,using only a sard.Uses .40mm loaded as above,and refuses to use a leader for shad,lol

P.S. He has had a lot of practice doing this, since fishing at Cove-rock and a few other East London spots in the late 1950'-1960's when he used to live in EL.lol
 
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Oupoot

New member
DINGO wrote:
Mr J, also use to fish this method, BUT back in the day. I used a small penn 155 and the old purglass (fibreglass) rod 325/1. I think the trick is a "soft" / whippy  rod to swing the whole sardine as a drift bait. On a softer tipped rod (even a carbon)rod you will feel the weight of the sard.
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100% just use a softer rod. Most guys I know use KP for drift baits.
 
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Mr J

Senior Member
:):):):) Seems like all the old hands in the game have come out of hiding...... Always nice to have them around!
 
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Turns123

Senior Member
You can also set the spool on your reel to adjust to the weight you are casting...at the end of the day its all about timing and a smooth cast!
 
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icstuff

Senior Member
I did this in Plett for the first time this December. I should say that I was still learning to cast with a multiplier and it was way easier to cast only the sardine with a ball sinker 1/2 ounce.
 
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Riaandl

Sealiner
A soft rod ande thinner line works well, I use a Blue Marlin 12ft rod loaded with .40mm line.

Another point that works well is to cast into a outgoing tide, that way in the right waves you get a good pull out to sea.

And I also rigg my bait with the hook as close as possible to the front of the head (torpedo effect) = longer casts
 
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Slymslak

Senior Member
Great topic ,had this cenario at the damme where cob would grab the bait and let go as soon as they feel wheight on the line,tried a throw bait without a sinker,bit of a mition but works like a bomb!
 
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