Carp Fishing

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Basspro

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I happen to be in a local tackle shop on Saturday morning - there were all sorts browsing around and 2 things caught my attention -

Not to be "politically incorrect" I'll call it what it is:

A Chinese guy was looking for tiger nuts - has no clue what it looks like and 2 black guys bought Docks ready made hair rigs ...........

Guess where those fish are going if these guys catch 'em ???

Just thought I'd share some info on our beloved sport !!!!
 
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Dai Deng

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well lets hope its not for the PAN, and if it is I hope they think the Tigers needs to be put directly on to the hook haha.
 
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Basspro

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The worry that they will take everything they catch - I hope its small and that they don't use it raw ... and that the shop assistant have the common sense to tell them its already cooked and if not then expalin what must be done....

Then again I saw them buying baiting needles as well !!
 
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Flashback

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Ja dis baie jammer dat almal wat die speaie ding leer doen nie die sport beoefen nie maar jag maak op die vis!!
Ons moet maar net meer jong hengelaars betrek by ons sport en hul als leer van die bewaring en hantering van spesie karps!
 
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marshall

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I for one sometimes feel that we are fighting a losing battle. Not only do we have the issue with those that dont have a clue but also with those that manage and run venues around the country then there are the shops who either dont know or just dont care what and to who they sell stuff. On a daily basis we have anglers in our buisness that want ready made hair rigs or guys that want to do speciemen angling but dont know the first thing about the sport. We spend hours trying to get the message through to these people about how it is actually done. Do we get it right? im sure we do but what about all the other that dont get the correct info. My advise is to all those who are specimen anglers is to do as much as possible to educate those around you. Dont be judgemental remember you to were pappies at one stage we all were thats how we started fishing. Dont just sit next to water and watch things go wrong get up and educate the guy next to you. You will be amazed at how far a little bit of advise and help goes to those that dont have a clue.

If your going to educate those that dont know then do it right dont do what some specimen anglers do and go crap all over a guy for having a keepnet or not releasing fish and make him feel all stupid and useless,thats not going to get you anywhere.

Change lies with you,you take the first step and the rest will follow. 
 
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Flashback

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Ja ek stem saam ons moet nie sit en kyk hoe goed verkeerd loop en stil bly nie!!
Ek het by HS n 9.3kg gevang een saterdag toe is daar n seun wat die vis wil he en hy oom my voor en agter, toe vra ek hom hoekom hy vir my oom se waarop hy toe se dat ek baie ouer is as hy, en toe vra ek hom hoe oud hy dink n vis van daai grote is en toe sou hy agter kom dat die vis ook baie ouer is as hy en dat hy moet respek he vir die vis!! wel ek het toe verder verduidelik oor die sport en hy het aandagtig geluister!! Ek glo dit sal hom by bly en dit is n begin!! As ons so iets sien  moet ons dit net mooi hanteer!!

Maar jy sal altyd die gene kry wat nie die skepping rispekteer nie!!
 
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Spinedok

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Ja

Die enigste manier om ons sport te bewaar is om instansies te he wat privaat waters het en manage. Dit is waarom ek al my spaar tyd agter SACS insit, want ek glo dat ons 'n verskil gaan maak, en dat alle goeie goed maar tyd neem. Maar daar is gelukkig 'n paar manne wat hierdie siening het, wat privaat dinge begin doen, en dit gaan maak dat ons in die toekoms kan hengel......
 
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Dai Deng

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dalk moet 'n ou mar net handgemeen raak die ou oor die kop slaan met 'n shifting spanner en sy kiepnet oopsny met 'n mes en dan sy lyn afsny en sy bakkie se wiele afblaas?

hehe net 'n joke.

Ek wil net weet by julle hoe sal julle hierdie storie benader het, se nou jy sit en visvang en soo ent weg sit jong ouens en visvang hulle land 'n karp van om en by 12kg met 'n string mielies wat hulle opgehaad het. nou gan die karp na die kiepnet vir die res van die naweek, hy gan vrek daar is nie 'n twyfel an dit nie. wat sal julle maak, want ek het hulle gevra om hom trug te sit omdat dit soo groot was en die antwoord was net nee en klaar soo wat maak mens nou, kan jy iets maak?
 
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Flashback

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Bel n paar spesie manne om te kom help met die oortuig werk!!Wha ha!
Ja jy gaan hul nie oortuig nie, as jy dalk n karp sak het offer om dan eerder die karp daar in te hou in diepper water as hul weer gaan vry laat?? Maar as daar otters is los liewers want dan gaan jy dalk jou sak ook verloor??
 
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Spinedok

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Ek het dit al gehad by rietvlei, ek het toe my wheight sling en unhookingmat na hulle toe geneem saam met my kamera. Ek het toe vir hulle die vis geweeg, en hulle was baie verbaas om te sien die vis weeg 12,9kg. Ek het toe mooi fotos van hulle met die vis geneem, en tussen alles het ek aan hulle verduidelik hoe oud daardie vis was en dat hy regtig weer sy vryheid verdien. Ek het hulle e-mail addresse geneem en die fotos vir hulle gemail, hulle het die vis toe laat gaan met swaar harte, maar ek glo hulle het verstaan omdat ek dit op hierdie manier gedoen het. So probeer maar hierdie approach volgende keer, dalk werk dit ook vir jou.
 
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Dai Deng

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ja ongelukkig daai tyd het ek nog net pap gegooi soo ek het ook nie regtig verstaan hoe die dinge werk nie ek het net geweet dit verkeerd, ek het in 2009 begin kyk hoe hierdie hengel werk en begin navors want dis mos 'n paar rand om als te kry, en van toe af is dit moeilik om 'n club funksie by te woon waar ek 20 500gram karpies moet vang hahaha ek is mal oor hengel enige tipe hengel ek doen einltlik LTB mar ek is regtig soos 'n stout seuntjie as ek begin beplan an 'n spesie sessie ek kani wag nie elke keer.

as ek mag vra julle weet nie van iemand wat 'n klein dingy het nie amper soos daai wat hulle vir 'n trailer se deksel gebruik ek soek baie hard na ene mar niemand het nie enige kondisie maki saki ek sal hom regmaak. want ek kan nou nie eintlik met my boot die lyne invat nie dit gan biekie wild lyk........
 
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pumamangp

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educate educate educate. the guys are going to find out eventualy from somewhere or some1, rather teach them properly and the right stuff then let them try do it themself and do more damage. PREVENTION IS BETTER THEN CURE!

good on you all who are educating and sharing your knowladge.
 
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marshall

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Something a bit of the topic but just as important is the venues we all like to fish at. Two exsamples if i may Rietvlei and Fanie Botha(Tzaneen Dam). Now i might be sticking my head out here but its all great that we want to teach our fellow anglers but if the venues we fish end up a mess then we have a bigger problem. Here is what worries me most of all. I think we will all agree that when money is involved the eco side of a venue ends up with the short end of the stick. Take Rietvlei for instance,its a nature conservation area and been around for years. Now look at the state that it is in ,im not talking about the water and polution that is a huge problem but more about the daily ammounts of snag lines building up in the lake.

I dont understand why it is that they dont make the effort to get all that crap out of the water. So many of us have offered to assist at no charge to help free the water of this problem. Why is there no rule on line weights and who has ever been stopped at the gate and searched for fish removal. Its a conservation area for crying out load,how many fish end up snagged and die in this mess,not to mention the bird life that takes a hammering getting caught in it. If you dont do something then its just going to get worse. They make a killing at the dam were is all that money going and what is it being used for?

Fanie Botha Dam is another exsample,the polution around that dam is incredible. I wrote a letter to the department of forestry and water and made a huge stink about it. I was totaly amazed when i got a call from them to find out were this was happening. They sent someone out there to meet one of my friends and went around to observe the complaint. I was called back and told that they are now sending a work team out to the dam on a two weekly basis to clean up around the dam. Now that is a department that is doing their job.But it goes to show that if we are serious about our sport then not only should we educate the angler but also do our utmost to force those responsible for venues to keep them to the standard that we would. Make enough noise and you will be heard.

Then i also strongly believe that our hands are not round and picking up other peoples mess is not your job but if all of us do it then it sets a exsample and soon more will follow. Why sit in your clean area but ignore the mess next to you because its not your mess. Enough ranting and raving just my 2cents worth 
 
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Flashback

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Ek stem saam, daar sal niks van jou af val as jy gemors op tel nie! ek se mens moet die plek SKONER los as wat jy hom gekry het!!
Ja en as n lyn gesnag het dan trek mens nie tot hy breek nie, jy roei in en gaan maak die snag los of breek dit dan kort af!
 
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Dai Deng

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ek wens almal wil dit doen mar almal het nie bote nie soo hoe maak mens dan, nog 'n ding.

Ek wil nou iets vra net omdat ek nou regtig nie weet nie, lyn le mos jare en jare in die water en word nooit vrot en los op nie ne?

mar wat van braid dis mos tou soo dit sal seker na 'n ruk vrot raak en disolve as dit die hele tyd in water is of is ek nou helemal van die pad af kan iemand my dalk 'n antwoord gee?
 
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Flashback

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As mens nie booy het nie moet jy sorg dat jy met safty clip hengel en dat jou hooklink n laer breekkrag het as jou lyn dan is die kanse dat jy lyn in die water gaan los kleiner!
Ek haal op DD 12lbs lyn uit met n draad spoel in n rietflei strop maar die aap se twee hoohlinks is braid hairrigs met tigers op, dit maak my boos want dit is nou n ou wat geleer het van haarstroppe maar weet nie hoe om dit toe te pas nie!!!:fbash
 
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marshall

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Altwee braid en mono is a ewel as dit afgebreek het en sal vir baie jare daar bly le. Daar is a van konsep dat mens moet dun lyn hengel met a helse hoe breekkrag leader lyn. Soos Flashback se jou hoeklink moet jou swakste breek krag wees betekende hooflyn is altyd strker as hoeklink. Ek hengel 50 pond braid want waar ek hengel is groot snaggs maar my hoeklink is maar 12 pond. As iets gaan gee is dit die hoeklink en het nog nooit my hooflyn gebreek nog net my paar centimeter hoeklink. Dit maak mos sin. Die probleem hier is as jy nie mag bote he op a water soos Rietvlei en daar is klaar a hoop snag lyne in die water dan is selfs 50 pond braid ook in gedrang want die ander gemors sny dit af. So die probleem raak net erger. Ek hengel nie meer daar as gevolg van die storie.
 
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