Thanks Magicatus, I see that you are from Grahamstown, do you fish Cannon Rocks often?, we got a holiday home there- come down often as we can. I want to use a small bronze spoon on my dropshot rod and then a slightly bigger one for my new scratching stick, when we fish off our boat in the Bushmans we always sit at this hole upriver during the day and the smaller Kob can be wild, great fun on light tackle using bait, I really want to catch one on spoon. The water at this spot is usually quite brown so would a bronze spoon be worth it Magicatus?