Braid vs Nylon

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Nawtyme7005

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I was born and bred on nylon but am about to step out of my comfort zone as there is so much more products,techniques and types of fishing out there then used to be.Can one of the experts give me the pros and cons of braid vs nylon.99% of the time i do rock and surf with the rock fishing being in very rocky areas,ive had great success in hooking big fish i couldnt land because getting cut of over reefs and rocks.Ive recently started doing livebaits and slidebaits from the rocks but its not always that easy with the big waves preventing your bait from sliding out.Any info/suggestions would be appreciated and what can i try to prevent the cutting off over the reefs.

Is braid stronger then nylon,is it thinner,how does the knots hold,whats the abrasion value,does it cast better and further,is it a good ,line for rock and surf.

Thanks guys,im desperate

 

 

 
 
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Burtie

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No comparison. 10lb braid and 10lb nylon will probably have the same strenght("a ton of feathers weighs the same as a ton of led..." , but the diameter will be about half. Therefor more line on your reel. Braid also dont get damaged on rocks nearly as much as nylon. It also only have 2% or less stretch. Al lthe above enables you to feel absolutely every nibble on your bait. I would advise against using just braid for in-eds because you would feel each and every headshake at force as there is no strech to adsorb the shock. Rather put 200m nylon topshot....

I'm sure lots have been said about this and what I have mentioned above is just a drop in the bucket. I'll advise to do a search as this topic has been covered before.
 
Marthin

Marthin

Sealiner
the guys here have used 80lb casting braid with great success fishing for galjoen in some very foul areas.
 
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Nawtyme7005

New member
So for example,a .35mm braid could have the same strenght as a .55mm nylon and is more effective on the rocks and over reefs but yoiu guys would suggest using it for fish like elf and other smaller species but not if you into catching shark,musselcracker etc.What would be a good alternative to being cut off over the reefs when fishing for the bigger stronger species
 
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Burtie

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Braid would be perfect for musselcracker too. I would suggest nylon topshot only for sharks @ 60kg and up. Braid is by far the best for the rest... I'd say go for the braid. You wil never look back.
 
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Burtie

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Use a thick diameter casting braid or even whiplash on a multiplier. You may struggle to cast it at first.
 
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willem wikkel spies

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stadig ouens.
it's your view and opinion in this case.

here is mine, when fishing rocky areas, you need abrasion resistance. the only thing that will help is thicker line. why are the guys using wind on leaders of 1.2mm.

for the rocks. there is no way that any anglers will break a 1.2mm leader with a fishing rod (used for surf fishing.

my advise is, go up a notch in line dia. fish at least 0.60mm and up to 0.65mm.

in the old days the guys use to use maxima compared to dia and strength it's crap, but landing fish over rocky areas it's king.

the braid is only to assit you when a fish is trying to spool you.
braid also assist in keeping the costs down as you only need to change the top shot.

there are not many eddible fish that are able to spool you.

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neilg

Sealiner
I did not take note of who said what, so not aiming my response at a individual

I agree with sea sick about thicker lines offering more abrasion resistence, I disagree that braid is only for backing though

Understand, there are different types of SUPERlines and they have different uses

To say 50lb braid has the same abbrasion resistance as 50lb mono is a very reckless and ill thought out response, cause in most cases it simply does not

Diameter is of importance
Example - 50lb fireline compared to 50lb whiplash compared 50lb mono

Intended use
Example - fireline is a casting braid, whiplash for backing

When looking at Abbrasion resistance diameter is important, not strength, thinner lines damage and break easier than thicker lines

U can't slide directly on braid !!! Period, it doesn't work, u don't have the stretch of mono, it doesn't work !

For surf fishing braid is amazing, here u can go thinner and therefore more line capacity

For rocks, if u going braid in foul areas, go heavy. If u currently fishing .50mm mono then get the same diameter in braid, that way u should have good abbrasion resistence (depending on quality of braid)

For casting stick with casting braids, they are generally thicker

There are many more factors, I just touched the tip of the iceburg !

Very very few edibles take more than 100m of line, so capacity should not be your reason

Also, can your rod and reel handle the extra pressure u will put on the fish (and the fish on u), braid is very direct

Mono and its stretch is very forgiving, unlike braid, there is no stretch, and the right knots are extremely important, use the wrong knot and your braid could break at 50% of its stated breaking strain

If u targetting small fish with braid, its fine, they don't fight very hard, but cracker and the like WILL damage your braid in foul areas ! Braid is more expensive than mono

I have 30lb fireline on a shimano 20/40, used to have 20lb mono on it

Generally I would say stick with mono for rocks

If u choose braid go Fireline, Power Pro or Jerry Brown, with a long mono "wind-on" leader that is very abbrasion resistant
 
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neilg

Sealiner
sea sick wrote:
my advise is, go up a notch in line dia. fish at least 0.60mm and up to 0.65mm.

in the old days the guys use to use maxima compared to dia and strength it's crap, but landing fish over rocky areas it's king.

there are not many eddible fish that are able to spool you.
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I agree with the above
Maxima and perlon can take punishment, and therefore are excellent leaders in foul areas

Most reef species run for the closest rock or cave/hole, so its more a case of hold on and pull as hard as u can before the get there

Would say 200m mono (.55mm - .60mm), with braid as backing ( for the sharks), and a good wind-on leader is essential
 
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