Braid as leadline on Multipliers

SL-Assassin

New member
Hi guys,
I'm needing some assistance here.  I fish with a SL-50 and go through a lot of line (snapping off on reefs and all that). 
So I was thinking if it would be a good idea to switch over to braid.  Sure it costs more initially but wont I save in the long-run? 
Then my biggest issue is the one of throwing a "kraais nest".  I'm ashamed to say that I lost the tip of my thumb to one earlier this year with normal mono line.
 :doh
So what  are the chances I'll loose by whole thumb with braid? Is it true that one throws less of them with braid?

Pros & Cons please guys?
 

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wortel

Member
dude if u lost a part of your thumb to mono, then i reckon u should stay away from braid... u might just lose your hand!
 

DJP

Sealiner
Looking at the pic I'd say get a spinning reel.

On a serious note.

Braid is great for reef fishing but not so much for long casts off the beach.

I wouldn't put braid on a SL 50, if you want to use braid for rock fishing get a shimano 15/30 (R700). The narrow spool reels work better.

You will not cast less overwinds, although they will be smaller, the braid has a tendency to "catch" quicker making less of a bundle and usually easy to sort out.

Get casting braid of more than 0.40mm (80lb kingfisher casting braid is 0.43mm which is what we use).

Make sure your rod guides can handle braid.

You have to use a mono leader for abrasion resistance when fishing with braid from the bricks.

My 2c...

 

 
 

Koper

Senior Member
Hi

Had the same problem & decided to go the braid route, did my first  sea session with it yesterday & not sorry at all - it's brilliant!

See the following threads:

http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=44651&forum_id=1

Post 21 of this thread Simen gives a very good breakdown of the pro's & con"s:

http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=20911&forum_id=1

Kingfisher casting braid (0.43 or 0.45 - can't remember) R270 for 230 meters at Suburban Tackle when I bought it.

Cheers & beware off the thumb!

ps.  Don't be scared for the braid, if you not scared, half the battle is won.
 

Nemesis

Sealiner
Get yourself a Trinidad 20dc,load 300m of normal braid backing,ontop 300m of 50lb dyneema braid,and then add a 120lb dyneema leader.Trust me you will throw a mile!!Your fingers will be saved as well,because once you get used to the DC system,theres no need to thumb the spool on a cast,and the dyneema braid is amazing direct and abrasion resistant!
 
G

Guest

Guest
I dunno...I've stuck with mono on all of my surf mutipliers. (Braid backing)

The main reason is that I replace my mono religiously after use. If I've fished over reefs and got stuck, or snagged a few pieces of Kelp, or crossed lines a few times with other anglers I don't hesitate to change a whole or half spool of mono - the cost is worth the confidence when the one that you've waited for eventually bites.

With braid I'd be just as worried about damaging a section of line and then I'd go bankrupt replacing it. Braid does get damaged and its difficult to pick up sometimes.

I've got braid on my spinning reels because I geneally throw lures without damaging the line.
 

pietman

Senior Member
What is goiing to happen when you get stuck on a rock deep in. How do you break the braid? You are goiing to loose a lot off braid in rocky areas an all the people fishing there again are goiing to get stack in the lost braid.
 

DJP

Sealiner
pietman wrote:
What is goiing to happen when you get stuck on a rock deep in. How do you break the braid? You are goiing to loose a lot off braid in rocky areas an all the people fishing there again are goiing to get stack in the lost braid.
Braid does exactly the opposite.

If you fish with 70-80lb(32-37kg) braid (the thinnest diameter you will want to cast with) and a 1mm leader (43kg), hook link 27kg mono and sinker link 13kg the weakest point will be in you terminal tackle.

This is one of the main reasons we use braid off the bricks, especially reefs where you cant walk back 10m to break the line. The low/non stretch braid enables you to break off in a matter of 1-2m an 99% of the time at the terminal tackle.
 

Mangi

Sealiner
pietman wrote:
What is goiing to happen when you get stuck on a rock deep in. How do you break the braid? You are goiing to loose a lot off braid in rocky areas an all the people fishing there again are goiing to get stack in the lost braid.

You have to use a mono leader with casting braid.  Like DJP said, we use the 80lbs Kingfisher Casting Braid, not for the breaking strenght, but for the diameter (0.43mm).  It is much easier to cast with.  Your 0.65/0.75/0.80mm leader will always snap before your 80lbs braid.

I used this casting braid on my Torium 20 this entire Galjoen season and I won't go back to mono.  Instead of losing +- 10 traces/ sinkers in a session, I lose about 2, if anything, at the most.  When I used mono, I respooled after every trip, as the line would break off during a session taking your 300m to 150/100m very quickly.  If I think back over the winter season, I must have broken my leader about 4 times.  That is proof enough for me to stick to braid.

 
 

pietman

Senior Member
Dankie vir die verduideliking. nie geweet julle sit mono leader op nie. Maak sin wat hulle nou skryf
 

Oldschoolfishie

New member
Hi. The way I understand the question is that he asks if it is better to use braid as your leader and not as main line. Correct me if i am wrong. I have done this before and not a good idea, just for price and seems to tangle or get stuck more easily on the rocks. So when you get stuck with the leader tangling on rocks, you lose the whole rig from your joining knot, or fray on the main line. Rather use the Titanium line as your leader. It is quite hard and resistant to abrasions and much cheaper than braid. Hope my input answers your question correctly.
 

SL-Assassin

New member
Shot Guys for the overwhelming response. This is exactly what I was looking for. I'll go with the casting braid and a mono leader. Makes perfect sense.

:thankie
 
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