Bottoms off the ski

trev11

New member
MichaelK wrote:
Mike another thing to consider when going out to sea on your ski, is SAMSA has regulated you guys.

Skis are only allowed to fish 1 nm out to sea.

I know you regularly see many prominent chaps in the fishing ski industry going 5 - 8 km out to sea on skis and even during fishing ski comps. This is illegal and you can get prosecuted if caught going out that far.

When was this enforced as a law and not a recommendation ?
 

mad mike

Senior Member
To fish from a Kayak in South Africa you must adhere to the following SAMSA minimum requirements...

Purchase a fishing licence from the Post Office or KZN wildlife office
Pay for the angling and skipper of a vessel on your licence
Kayak must be over 3 metres in length to go to sea (beyond the backline)
Kayak must have minimum 30% buoyancy
You must wear an approved PFD (personal flotation device)
Carry a 10 metre rope. (tow rope)
Pencil flares (not out of date)
Bailing device (bucket or collapsible bucket) You can use your tackle box or a sponge
You must have 750ml drinking water.
You must not exceed 1.85km from land (1nautical mile)
You can launch anywhere except if the launch site is restricted by Port Authority, Private owner, Parks Board, or Municipality for which you may be asked to pay a fee
SAKFA also recommend...
Paddle leash.
Attach your paddle to your ski via a leash (some like to detach during launching and beaching)
Kayak should display approved SAKFA identification number something like KFSC69 which means Kayak Fishing (KF) Scottburgh (SC) and allocated number. So if your Kayak is found out at sea NSRI or anyone who finds it can phone SAKFA or the club which issued the number and get your details
Carry a cell phone in a waterproof pouch programme in 082 911 SEA RESCUE
SMS your launch and return time or leave a float plan with someone
SAKFA recommend you join a local Kayak club
Always check the weather forecast before you leave and keep checking when you are out at sea
Make sure you can turn over and climb on your Kayak if it capsizes
Never paddle alone always paddle with at least one person
If your Kayak capsizes stay with it and phone for help
Tell someone where you are going and estimated time due back
Complete a launch register at your launch site if applicable
Check your Kayak before leaving for cracks and leaks. Make sure the bungs are in!
Remember - know your own personal paddling capabilities and do not exceed them
Don't forget your fishing licence and vessel licence (both on the same licence)
Obey any Parks board or municipality launch site rules and pay fees if applicable
A plastic whistle is also handy to have to attract attention
A mirror to use for attracting attention (using suns reflection)
Write your SAKFA number and cell number on your paddle and equipment
 

plugger

Senior Member
I'm open to correction but I think the rule that changed was regarding Jetskis crossing the harbor mouth ?
 

MichaelK

Sealiner
trev11 wrote:
MichaelK wrote:
Mike another thing to consider when going out to sea on your ski, is SAMSA has regulated you guys.

Skis are only allowed to fish 1 nm out to sea.

I know you regularly see many prominent chaps in the fishing ski industry going 5 - 8 km out to sea on skis and even during fishing ski comps. This is illegal and you can get prosecuted if caught going out that far.

When was this enforced as a law and not a recommendation ?



Hi Trev, see the attached response from SAMSA to Kieth Hockly posted on this site many moons back. You guys are classed as Cat E (1Nm)
 

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MichaelK

Sealiner
Also see page 56 of the small vessel safety regs 37 (2)
 

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Malgas

Senior Member
Hi I have looked at both the letter, and the regs, and I am a bit confused?

The letter clearly states that it is addressing craft that remain within 1,000m of the shore. When I look at the regs this is applicable to craft less than 3m?

There is also no mention of the 1Nm? I am sure there are other steps in the KZN consultative process, but the regs you post -page 56 Item (2)- point to this limit for a craft under 3m. The letter also says nothing about ski's been classed as Type E but I think this is correct but have not seen an authoritative link with the 1Nm limit?. (I also don't know how the Jet ski guys with craft under 3m handle this one!?):)

I am not advocating skis going great distances offshore, but its a pretty strong statement to threaten ALL ski fishermen with prosecution if it is not clearly stated in the regs. And I doubt whether the letter supercedes the Gazetted Regulations?

There is an item that follows - namely Item (3) on pg 56 that talks to non- motor driven craft under 7m -that presumably fall in the plus 3m to 7m range-and there is no mention of a limit here but correctly points to safety concerns such as built in buoyancy- foam etc -which most skis have today? I would assume that the average fishing ski today easily falls in this length range?

The regs set the National standard to be followed. From a safety point of view I am sure the letter is best practise and I would not advise against it at all, especially so for kayaks of less than 3m. But we also can't ignore that fact that the letter was a response to a clubs request for information as how best to advise their members.

If one wants a National standard one has to read the regs and also be led by them. Particularly on the safety side.

If you are going out too far you are putting yourself at risk, but if you are going out too far without the safety kit, or a ski that sinks!, then you are a RISK!?:)
 

Malgas

Senior Member
Apologies Mike, you are not threatening ALL, I over -state....ALL who go further than was it 1,000m, or was it 1Nm? :)
 

bjornh

Senior Member
Fishing skis still remain a grey area. Apparently even down to the definition of a vessel.

Join the Durban Paddle ski club. We have just opened new waters and are now allowed to cross the harbour mouth legally.

To fish our area you'll be required to be joined by a member as a minimum requirement, and then to meet the necessary safety equipment as per the Club constitution.

Regards,
Bjorn
 

bjornh

Senior Member
Entire beachfront and the Bay falls under the ports authority. Through the club we're authorised to be on the water. Up to 70 boats at any one time. Need to sign register to say your on the water and have all the safety gear. Those not part of the club are effectively pirating.

It's not expensive to join and not at all demanding. A really good bunch of guys who all have one thing in common - love being on the water.

They're also the same crowd that invested heavily in saving Vetchies and guarenteed all the clubs in the area a spot in the future development.
 

MichaelK

Sealiner
have they given you a date when they going to demolish your club yet? We were told immediately after the Durban ski boat club comp, that the construction would commense in that area once again.

Also has your club agreed to amalgamate with Durban ski boat club and DOC. The last time i hear there was a rift once again and the paddle ski guys had withdrawn
 
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