Banning of Seine Netting
- Thread starter RobinF
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Seems like everybody is running in circles with this issue... Heart 104.9 has a program in the afternoon where a person can speak to Helen Zille or Patricia De Lille concerning complaints like these. I don't know what's the number but I'm sure its not hard to get a hold of. Get the media involved... Speak to our local radio stations to help get attention to these issues!
Def-e-nition
Sealiner
Seine netting is an Outdated form Of fishing , and whether Legal Or illegal , Breaking the Law or not breaking the Law - I equate this form of fishing to being about as clinically effective as Judge Dredd driving down to a Linkin Park concert after a Particular suspect - and opening fire On him In the Middle of a Crowded and Packed Golden Circle , with a 12 guage Shot-gun 9 times - Thereby Nailing His Target , and everyone Else who Falls by The wayside is considered "cholatteral Damage " .
Completely Daft and Prehistoric . I Realize That Jobs are at stake , I can comprehend the impact : But just because something doesn't contravene any law ,DOESN't Make it socially acceptable .
Take it away , Jb2 ..........
Completely Daft and Prehistoric . I Realize That Jobs are at stake , I can comprehend the impact : But just because something doesn't contravene any law ,DOESN't Make it socially acceptable .
Take it away , Jb2 ..........
Def-e-nition wrote:
Very well said. I agree 100%.
BulkCarrier
Sealiner
Def-e-nition wrote:
I will agree with you if you can tell me that you have confronted every shore base angler that you have seen to take undersize or over quota fish , to put them back.
I can's say that, so like the old saying goes "People that lives in glass houses mustn't throw stones"
Why don't we as the rec anglers, not first cleanup our anglers before we start looking at the other guys.
Don't like treknet fishing, but have seen way worse from rec's.
I will agree with you if you can tell me that you have confronted every shore base angler that you have seen to take undersize or over quota fish , to put them back.
I can's say that, so like the old saying goes "People that lives in glass houses mustn't throw stones"
Why don't we as the rec anglers, not first cleanup our anglers before we start looking at the other guys.
Don't like treknet fishing, but have seen way worse from rec's.
Def-e-nition
Sealiner
I'll Wager The impact Of ANY form Of netting , Versus the Damage recreational angling imparts , ANy day ..
Our club - 13 tonnes
a Trawler - 40 Tonnes in 3 days .
no contest .
I'm Specifically Targeting Trek Netting , Actually , but Just thinking about those balls being dragged along the bottom of The Ocean Floor - as Long as We Can't see it - no harm done - we got the visse , right ?!?
Trek netting is My Main gripe . Lets begin there .
I DO hear you though . Your point Regarding Anglers is also , Very ,very , Valid .
Our club - 13 tonnes
a Trawler - 40 Tonnes in 3 days .
no contest .
I'm Specifically Targeting Trek Netting , Actually , but Just thinking about those balls being dragged along the bottom of The Ocean Floor - as Long as We Can't see it - no harm done - we got the visse , right ?!?
Trek netting is My Main gripe . Lets begin there .
I DO hear you though . Your point Regarding Anglers is also , Very ,very , Valid .
RobinF wrote:
Good to have you back.
I was worried that you had run away when the questions started getting hard or that you were upset that I had said that you were fibbing.
Have a look at the other thread where the lie that you told about trek bycatch fish going to Gauteng was presented as fact.
Please don't disappear again!
Hi RobinF
Good to have you back.
I was worried that you had run away when the questions started getting hard or that you were upset that I had said that you were fibbing.
Have a look at the other thread where the lie that you told about trek bycatch fish going to Gauteng was presented as fact.
Please don't disappear again!
jb2 wrote:
You know JB2, call me what you want, mock me all you want, but to date I have only ever heard of one person shooting themselves with their OWN spear-gun and that's you. Really? Your own spear-gun?? As another Sealiner put it "chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken. Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken."
RobinF wrote:
I already mentioned that I was much more stupid than that.
The trouble though is that just because I have had a monumental stuff up with diving equipment, it doesn't mean that I am necessarily wrong in my thoughts about marine management.
But let's rather talk about the topic that is the subject of this thread.
I have already pointed out that it is not enough to hide behind saying "chicken chicken."
Let us rather discuss things and explore common ground. Let us look at what is wrong and what can be fixed.
In order to do that we need to try to do it as honestly and forthrightly as possible.
Please don't run away or hide behind saying "chicken chicken" or "Nah nah nah - Nah nah!"
Please don't try to "sex up" stories or try to make them more juicey.
Let's just discuss things.
Hi RobinF
I already mentioned that I was much more stupid than that.
The trouble though is that just because I have had a monumental stuff up with diving equipment, it doesn't mean that I am necessarily wrong in my thoughts about marine management.
But let's rather talk about the topic that is the subject of this thread.
I have already pointed out that it is not enough to hide behind saying "chicken chicken."
Let us rather discuss things and explore common ground. Let us look at what is wrong and what can be fixed.
In order to do that we need to try to do it as honestly and forthrightly as possible.
Please don't run away or hide behind saying "chicken chicken" or "Nah nah nah - Nah nah!"
Please don't try to "sex up" stories or try to make them more juicey.
Let's just discuss things.
RobinF wrote:
Hi Robin
In mid Feb I asked you to correct a false statement that you made.
Have a look at my post below where I ask you to correct your fib.
Please confirm that your statement about fish going to Gauteng is false and was inserted for effect or some other purpose.
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Hi Robin
Seriously dude?
This is important.
Your post suggests that fish is going to Gauteng.
Scripting or a real problem that needs to be addressed.
I genuinely need to know!
Here is what you said:
BUT NOOOO, we have the issue of fish dying in the net, the undersized fish that should not be landed and so on and so on. My point is that the Trek netters do nothing to improve their image, instead they get Aziz to come take the small fish to Gauteng
Hi Robin
In mid Feb I asked you to correct a false statement that you made.
Have a look at my post below where I ask you to correct your fib.
Please confirm that your statement about fish going to Gauteng is false and was inserted for effect or some other purpose.
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Hi Robin
Seriously dude?
This is important.
Your post suggests that fish is going to Gauteng.
Scripting or a real problem that needs to be addressed.
I genuinely need to know!
Here is what you said:
BUT NOOOO, we have the issue of fish dying in the net, the undersized fish that should not be landed and so on and so on. My point is that the Trek netters do nothing to improve their image, instead they get Aziz to come take the small fish to Gauteng
RobinF wrote:
Hi Robin
You're doing it again.
Please take a step back and read your reply carefully.
You just asked me to show you were you were fibbing. As soon as I do that you say that you are not fibbing.
You asked me to point out a fib.
Please accept that I know a lot more about the sale of fish from linefish boats and treks than you.
And I can spot a fib.
Hi Robin
You're doing it again.
Please take a step back and read your reply carefully.
You just asked me to show you were you were fibbing. As soon as I do that you say that you are not fibbing.
You asked me to point out a fib.
Please accept that I know a lot more about the sale of fish from linefish boats and treks than you.
And I can spot a fib.
RobinF wrote:
Hi Robin
You still have not answered the question.
You have gone around in circles.
Did Aziz drive the fish to Gauteng?
It is sort of one of "He did or he did not" kind of things
So Robin, Did Aziz drive the fish to Gauteng?
You can see how far we have gone from your original post.
Did the fish go to Gauteng?
If you are telling the truth then there is no difficulty in you either denying or repeating the statement?
Did Aziz take the fish to Gauteng?
Hi Robin
You still have not answered the question.
You have gone around in circles.
Did Aziz drive the fish to Gauteng?
It is sort of one of "He did or he did not" kind of things
So Robin, Did Aziz drive the fish to Gauteng?
You can see how far we have gone from your original post.
Did the fish go to Gauteng?
If you are telling the truth then there is no difficulty in you either denying or repeating the statement?
Did Aziz take the fish to Gauteng?